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Comic Cons, Candy & AI Meat Puppets

The Grit City crew is back, and things get weird. Again.

This week, Jeff, Scott, Mike, and C-Note catch up on everything from breakfast at Top Gun in Puyallup to hiking Mount Rainier, running marathons (or avoiding them), and the latest Grit City Comic Show.

Mike shares his comic-con adventures, including catching up with local creators, meeting author Ben Thompson, and discussing the show's decision to keep AI-generated artwork off the vendor floor.

Then Halloween enters the conversation, complete with questionable costumes, trick-or-treating strategies, and enough candy to cause a neighborhood crisis.

Somehow, the guys move from anime recommendations and Tacoma Stars soccer to The Matrix, digital immortality, artificial intelligence, and the horrifying possibility that humans are just meat puppets for machines.

Throw in intelligent fungi, zombie video games, and the usual completely unnecessary rabbit holes, and you've got another beautifully unhinged episode of Saturday Night Grit.

It's Tacoma. It's nerd culture. It's existential dread with dick jokes.

Just another night on the Grit City Podcast.

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Chapters with timestamps
00:00 - Cold Open β€” Is This Thing On?
01:34 - Welcome Back, C-Note's New Job, and Catching Up
02:54 - Breakfast at Top Gun in Puyallup
04:49 - Mount Rainier, the Skyline Loop, and Mountain Goats
09:20 - Marathons, Running Clubs, and Why Running Sucks
12:00 - Tacoma Adventures and a Day at Grit City Comic Show
19:31 - Ken Carlson, Independent Films, and Local Creators
22:09 - Meeting Author Ben Thompson and Comic-Con Surprises
25:59 - Grit City Comic Show's No-AI-Art Policy
29:32 - Furry Conventions, Costumes, and Unexpected Detours
30:37 - Halloween Costumes and Trick-or-Treating
37:58 - Anime Recommendations and Scott's Anime Struggles
44:08 - Listener Voicemail: Winterizing Your Outdoor Faucets
45:47 - Tacoma Stars, Indoor Soccer, and the GCP Discord
49:20 - The Matrix, Human Batteries, and Virtual Reality
52:04 - Digital Consciousness and Living Forever
55:16 - AI, Immortality, and the Meat Puppet Theory
57:53 - Fungi, Strange Intelligence, and Video Games
59:34 - Zombie Games, AI Development, and Unreal Graphics
1:02:07 - Closing β€” You've Been Listening to Grit City Podcast

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00:00.000 --> 00:00.720 Is this thing on?

00:30.000 --> 00:35.000 I can touch my own butthole. It still seems really weird.

00:35.000 --> 00:40.000 Hey Scott, Scott, mark that.

00:40.000 --> 00:45.000 So I made this guy laugh and just did the rest of it.

00:45.000 --> 00:52.000 Ah, that's hilarious. Now we're just gonna sound weird as fuck.

01:00.000 --> 01:20.000 All right, someone do an intro.

01:20.000 --> 01:22.000 Grit City Podcast.

01:22.000 --> 01:23.000 Grit City Podcast.

01:23.000 --> 01:25.000 Grit City Podcast.

01:25.000 --> 01:28.000 Grit City Podcast!

01:28.000 --> 01:34.000 Don't worry, they're innocent, I promise.

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01:34.000 --> 01:39.000 Welcome to the Grit City Podcast. I'm Jeff.

01:39.000 --> 01:40.000 I'm Scott.

01:40.000 --> 01:42.000 I'm Mike.

01:42.000 --> 01:44.000 And I'm C-Note.

01:44.000 --> 01:46.000 Damn straight, you are!

01:46.000 --> 01:49.000 C-Note, what the hell you been up to lately?

01:49.000 --> 01:55.000 Oh man, same old thing, man. Hanging out, geocaching.

01:55.000 --> 01:59.000 Oh, I got a job. I didn't tell that to everybody.

01:59.000 --> 02:00.000 Congrats!

02:00.000 --> 02:03.000 Back to work, starting on Wednesday.

02:03.000 --> 02:05.000 Nice. Congratulations.

02:05.000 --> 02:06.000 Thank you.

02:06.000 --> 02:07.000 Slash, I'm sorry.

02:07.000 --> 02:08.000 Yeah.

02:08.000 --> 02:11.000 I was just gonna say, I don't know if that's congratulatory words.

02:11.000 --> 02:15.000 Well, for having to work, no, for needing to, you know, start making some money.

02:15.000 --> 02:17.000 That's good for the, good for that.

02:17.000 --> 02:18.000 Yeah.

02:18.000 --> 02:19.000 Money's overrated, dude.

02:19.000 --> 02:20.000 Yeah.

02:20.000 --> 02:22.000 I wish I didn't need it, man. That'd be cool.

02:22.000 --> 02:23.000 Me too.

02:23.000 --> 02:24.000 It's good to have a goal every day though.

02:24.000 --> 02:25.000 You know what I mean?

02:25.000 --> 02:27.000 It's good to have a place to go and-

02:27.000 --> 02:28.000 It is.

02:28.000 --> 02:29.000 I have a goal.

02:29.000 --> 02:32.000 My goal is to wake up every day.

02:32.000 --> 02:33.000 That's a good goal.

02:33.000 --> 02:35.000 That's all our goals, dude.

02:35.000 --> 02:38.000 So far, I am perfect.

02:38.000 --> 02:39.000 Well, maybe not.

02:39.000 --> 02:42.000 I think I slept through a couple of days, but-

02:42.000 --> 02:44.000 I know there's a couple days I slept through.

02:44.000 --> 02:45.000 Yeah.

02:45.000 --> 02:48.000 So yeah, that's it for me, man.

02:48.000 --> 02:50.000 Hung out with Scott the other day.

02:50.000 --> 02:53.000 Oh, you hang out with Scott where we're at.

02:53.000 --> 02:54.000 Yeah.

02:54.000 --> 02:56.000 We went to, what did we do? Top Gun in Puyallup.

02:57.000 --> 02:58.000 We did.

02:59.000 --> 03:00.000 Fun spot.

03:00.000 --> 03:01.000 I've been to Top Gun.

03:01.000 --> 03:05.000 It is a very cool spot to be because you're by the airport, right?

03:05.000 --> 03:06.000 Yes.

03:06.000 --> 03:08.000 Dude, it's right on the runway.

03:08.000 --> 03:09.000 It's like right on the runway.

03:09.000 --> 03:10.000 Yeah.

03:10.000 --> 03:11.000 It's right there.

03:11.000 --> 03:12.000 Nice.

03:12.000 --> 03:13.000 We got a couple concerts there.

03:13.000 --> 03:19.000 So it's not only good for brunches, but it's also good for evening entertainment also.

03:20.000 --> 03:21.000 We did breakfast.

03:22.000 --> 03:23.000 Oh, you did breakfast.

03:23.000 --> 03:23.000 Okay.

03:23.000 --> 03:24.000 I'm sorry.

03:24.000 --> 03:29.000 I had fucking, God damn it, biscuits and gravy and they were fantastic.

03:29.000 --> 03:30.000 I couldn't even finish them.

03:30.000 --> 03:31.000 What's the matter, Mike?

03:31.000 --> 03:32.000 Why are you laughing?

03:32.000 --> 03:33.000 I got one of the scrambles.

03:33.000 --> 03:34.000 I wasn't laughing.

03:34.000 --> 03:35.000 I was envious.

03:35.000 --> 03:36.000 I was giving you the Homer moan.

03:36.000 --> 03:38.000 I love biscuits and gravy.

03:38.000 --> 03:39.000 Me too, man.

03:39.000 --> 03:40.000 It's the best.

03:40.000 --> 03:41.000 Sorry.

03:41.000 --> 03:42.000 What did you say, Ceno?

03:42.000 --> 03:44.000 Oh, I said I had some sort of scramble.

03:44.000 --> 03:48.000 I don't remember which one I grabbed, but it was awesome.

03:48.000 --> 03:49.000 Yeah, it was good.

03:49.000 --> 03:50.000 I did it perfectly, man.

03:50.000 --> 03:53.000 Um, apparently the airport's been closed for what she, what'd she say?

03:53.000 --> 03:54.000 Like a couple months.

03:54.000 --> 03:55.000 Yeah.

03:55.000 --> 03:56.000 A couple months.

03:56.000 --> 03:57.000 Good.

03:57.000 --> 03:58.000 They've been, they were paving everything.

03:58.000 --> 03:59.000 So no, like there's no airplane.

03:59.000 --> 04:01.000 She's like, it's just been dead.

04:01.000 --> 04:02.000 Just dead.

04:02.000 --> 04:03.000 What the heck?

04:03.000 --> 04:04.000 Yeah.

04:04.000 --> 04:07.000 Well, they had to, um, repave the runway.

04:07.000 --> 04:08.000 Oh yeah.

04:08.000 --> 04:13.000 So, but, um, they were finished and they had, we had live planes when we were there and

04:13.000 --> 04:14.000 the weather was nice.

04:14.000 --> 04:15.000 Yeah.

04:15.000 --> 04:16.000 We sat outside.

04:16.000 --> 04:17.000 Sat outside.

04:17.000 --> 04:18.000 It was great.

04:18.000 --> 04:19.000 I drank.

04:19.000 --> 04:20.000 It was, it was awesome.

04:21.000 --> 04:22.000 I know.

04:22.000 --> 04:24.000 It's a great, it's a great place.

04:24.000 --> 04:26.000 I live around the corner from that place.

04:26.000 --> 04:29.000 I'm going to have to, me and me and my wife are always like, Hey, you want to go there?

04:29.000 --> 04:32.000 Uh, maybe, you know, you were invited, Jeff.

04:32.000 --> 04:33.000 I invited you.

04:33.000 --> 04:34.000 You were.

04:34.000 --> 04:35.000 No, you did.

04:35.000 --> 04:36.000 Yeah.

04:36.000 --> 04:37.000 But still again, I'm, I'm.

04:37.000 --> 04:38.000 Tell everybody.

04:38.000 --> 04:39.000 So I don't get hate emails.

04:39.000 --> 04:40.000 There we go.

04:40.000 --> 04:41.000 Fuck dicks.

04:41.000 --> 04:42.000 Yeah.

04:42.000 --> 04:43.000 Because he's got the plague.

04:43.000 --> 04:45.000 Um, yeah.

04:45.000 --> 04:49.000 Being around, uh, uh, people's probably not a good idea.

04:49.000 --> 04:54.000 Uh, so Chansey, uh, we saw some pictures of you on a mountain.

04:54.000 --> 05:01.000 Uh, uh, I don't, I know that's probably wasn't this week, but, uh, can you tell me about,

05:01.000 --> 05:02.000 I think you're on.

05:02.000 --> 05:03.000 I think you're on.

05:03.000 --> 05:04.000 When was that?

05:04.000 --> 05:05.000 It was a few weeks ago.

05:05.000 --> 05:06.000 I went to Mount Rainier.

05:06.000 --> 05:07.000 Mount Rainier.

05:07.000 --> 05:08.000 Okay.

05:08.000 --> 05:09.000 Yep.

05:09.000 --> 05:12.000 I went up by myself one day and, uh, I did the skyline loop.

05:12.000 --> 05:14.000 Um, so that was pretty cool.

05:14.000 --> 05:15.000 Pretty tough.

05:15.000 --> 05:16.000 But yeah.

05:16.000 --> 05:18.000 So I spent the day on the mountain.

05:18.000 --> 05:19.000 All right.

05:19.000 --> 05:23.000 Did you see anything weird that you could say like, uh, oh, that's fucking weird.

05:23.000 --> 05:24.000 No, nothing weird.

05:24.000 --> 05:25.000 I saw a mountain goat.

05:25.000 --> 05:30.000 Um, that was probably like the coolest animal, you know, everybody was talking about that.

05:30.000 --> 05:33.000 You just, you pull in and big signs, you know, bears are present.

05:33.000 --> 05:34.000 And I'm like, oh my God.

05:34.000 --> 05:36.000 Um, they're a president.

05:36.000 --> 05:38.000 Does that mean you can just take them home for free?

05:38.000 --> 05:39.000 Yeah.

05:39.000 --> 05:40.000 They're definitely.

05:40.000 --> 05:41.000 Yeah.

05:41.000 --> 05:42.000 If you want to try.

05:42.000 --> 05:43.000 Yep.

05:43.000 --> 05:48.000 Uh, I was surprised to see the mountain was so, uh, bare of snow.

05:48.000 --> 05:52.000 Um, and like, and like Nisqually glacier.

05:52.000 --> 05:53.000 What's that?

05:53.000 --> 05:56.000 That's the glacier on the mountain in Nisqually.

05:56.000 --> 05:57.000 Which is gone.

05:57.000 --> 05:58.000 It does like.

05:58.000 --> 05:59.000 Oh, oh, there's not.

05:59.000 --> 06:00.000 Nothing left.

06:00.000 --> 06:01.000 Right.

06:01.000 --> 06:03.000 But they didn't take the signs down though.

06:03.000 --> 06:04.000 Right?

06:04.000 --> 06:05.000 No, it's still there.

06:05.000 --> 06:08.000 And obviously there's still stuff up there, but it's just so wild to see.

06:08.000 --> 06:09.000 It might come back.

06:09.000 --> 06:10.000 You never know.

06:10.000 --> 06:11.000 It might.

06:11.000 --> 06:12.000 Yeah, it should.

06:12.000 --> 06:13.000 That's not how that works.

06:13.000 --> 06:14.000 Oh, I gotcha.

06:14.000 --> 06:15.000 I gotcha.

06:15.000 --> 06:17.000 I was a little slow on the uptake there.

06:17.000 --> 06:18.000 Man, that's awesome.

06:18.000 --> 06:19.000 Um, so we do.

06:19.000 --> 06:22.000 Would you recommend it to your friends and family?

06:22.000 --> 06:25.000 Uh, always recommend the mountain.

06:25.000 --> 06:26.000 Yeah.

06:26.000 --> 06:27.000 That, that, that loop.

06:27.000 --> 06:28.000 I don't know.

06:28.000 --> 06:29.000 I don't know.

06:29.000 --> 06:31.000 But, um, no, I'm a glamper.

06:31.000 --> 06:33.000 I'm like a capital G glamper.

06:33.000 --> 06:41.000 And I, I, I, and, uh, so on a level of like one, one, one to 10, what would you say?

06:41.000 --> 06:47.000 Uh, athletic ability, just normal ability for, for people, what to expect?

06:47.000 --> 06:54.000 Uh, so going up to the mountain, you could drive up to the top to paradise and you could walk around.

06:54.000 --> 06:56.000 It gets a little steep at the beginning.

06:56.000 --> 06:58.000 Um, the route I did, I don't know.

06:58.000 --> 06:59.000 They say it's hard.

06:59.000 --> 07:06.000 I, I mean, you're a young, healthy spry, uh, something like that.

07:06.000 --> 07:07.000 Yeah.

07:07.000 --> 07:09.000 So, so yeah, you, you could do it.

07:09.000 --> 07:10.000 Yeah.

07:10.000 --> 07:11.000 Um, it's doable.

07:11.000 --> 07:12.000 It took me hours.

07:12.000 --> 07:14.000 I mean, it took me, I don't know.

07:14.000 --> 07:16.000 I was up there for like five hours.

07:16.000 --> 07:17.000 Okay.

07:17.000 --> 07:18.000 So it's an all day thing.

07:18.000 --> 07:23.000 And I, you know, I stopped at eight lunch and, you know, so many pictures I took.

07:23.000 --> 07:25.000 So, you know, how much that stop and just whatever.

07:25.000 --> 07:26.000 Right.

07:26.000 --> 07:27.000 Right.

07:27.000 --> 07:27.000 Okay.

07:27.000 --> 07:28.000 It was tough.

07:28.000 --> 07:29.000 It was tough, but doable.

07:29.000 --> 07:30.000 I don't remember.

07:30.000 --> 07:32.000 I don't have, I didn't look it up to see how many miles it was.

07:32.000 --> 07:35.000 I think about eight miles, something like that.

07:35.000 --> 07:36.000 Nice.

07:36.000 --> 07:42.000 Um, yeah, I, I think it's one of the jewels, of course, you know, you can't miss it.

07:42.000 --> 07:43.000 It's a mountain.

07:43.000 --> 07:47.000 Um, but to me, when I think about that, I always think about the ruggedness.

07:47.000 --> 07:52.000 Me and me and Scott used to work for people that when they do Mount Rainier, they do it

07:52.000 --> 07:57.000 in the middle of winter and they go up the side that there's, you know, straight up.

07:57.000 --> 08:01.000 And those are the people that make documentaries about cause they die.

08:01.000 --> 08:02.000 Yeah.

08:02.000 --> 08:07.000 And I remember the speech she gave me, like I was even going to be willing to say, Oh,

08:07.000 --> 08:09.000 well that sounds like something I want to do.

08:09.000 --> 08:10.000 No, you don't.

08:10.000 --> 08:11.000 Yeah.

08:11.000 --> 08:12.000 Yeah.

08:12.000 --> 08:16.000 If you, if you come with us, if, if so-and-so says, stop, you stop.

08:16.000 --> 08:19.000 He's the king commander and God on this trip.

08:19.000 --> 08:21.000 I was like, Holy shit.

08:21.000 --> 08:22.000 What are we doing here?

08:22.000 --> 08:25.000 So I'm very, so that's when you say, Hey, I'm going up Mount Rainier.

08:25.000 --> 08:27.000 I'm like, Holy shit.

08:27.000 --> 08:31.000 Uh, so I'm really glad to see there's a lot more.

08:31.000 --> 08:34.000 Hey, you can go up on a nice sunny day.

08:34.000 --> 08:35.000 Oh yeah.

08:35.000 --> 08:38.000 Take pictures of some mountain goats and eat your lunch and be home by dinner time.

08:38.000 --> 08:39.000 And eat your lunch.

08:39.000 --> 08:40.000 Yep.

08:40.000 --> 08:41.000 Be home by dinner for sure.

08:41.000 --> 08:46.000 Uh, Jeff's just waiting for a chance to club her on the head with the fucking rock and eat her.

08:46.000 --> 08:48.000 He's all, fuck you.

08:48.000 --> 08:49.000 Yeah.

08:49.000 --> 08:50.000 I watch those movies.

08:50.000 --> 08:54.000 You don't get in trouble if you're lost in the, in the, in the middle of nowhere and you eat somebody.

08:54.000 --> 08:55.000 Yeah.

08:55.000 --> 08:56.000 That's right.

08:56.000 --> 08:57.000 Oh, they'd eat.

08:57.000 --> 08:58.000 Yeah.

08:58.000 --> 08:59.000 They'd eat you.

08:59.000 --> 09:00.000 Okay.

09:00.000 --> 09:01.000 Here's the, Oh, in a heartbeat, they would eat you.

09:01.000 --> 09:02.000 You would be, we would be the first ones on the list.

09:02.000 --> 09:04.000 They would have been, they would eat us at work.

09:04.000 --> 09:05.000 Yeah.

09:05.000 --> 09:06.000 Like we couldn't get out of that building.

09:06.000 --> 09:09.000 I'm pretty sure it would go lockdown and we'd been food.

09:09.000 --> 09:10.000 Dude.

09:10.000 --> 09:10.000 Yeah.

09:10.000 --> 09:11.000 They were psychopaths.

09:11.000 --> 09:15.000 They had like the runners, you know, the numbers, like whatever.

09:15.000 --> 09:18.000 I don't know what the fucking, what are the numbers, Jeff?

09:20.000 --> 09:23.000 For like, uh, what's a, uh, a marathon?

09:23.000 --> 09:24.000 Is it 21?

09:24.000 --> 09:28.000 Oh, he's talking like the marathon, half marathon and all that.

09:28.000 --> 09:29.000 Yeah.

09:29.000 --> 09:29.000 Yeah.

09:29.000 --> 09:30.000 Yeah.

09:30.000 --> 09:34.000 They would have all these circle numbers on their cars for all the marathons they ran.

09:34.000 --> 09:35.000 Right.

09:35.000 --> 09:35.000 Yeah.

09:35.000 --> 09:36.000 Yeah.

09:36.000 --> 09:37.000 3.5.

09:37.000 --> 09:38.000 Yeah.

09:38.000 --> 09:39.000 They were all about it.

09:39.000 --> 09:41.000 Like, but yeah, they took it to the extreme.

09:41.000 --> 09:42.000 How many did they have?

09:42.000 --> 09:43.000 They were crazy, man.

09:43.000 --> 09:44.000 Oh yeah.

09:44.000 --> 09:45.000 Oh yeah.

09:45.000 --> 09:46.000 I worked on the artwork.

09:46.000 --> 09:46.000 Yeah.

09:46.000 --> 09:47.000 They had one for every season.

09:47.000 --> 09:50.000 They, they didn't miss a chance to run.

09:50.000 --> 09:57.000 So it's 3.1 miles or 5k, 6.2 miles or 10k, 13.1 miles or 21.1 kilometers.

09:57.000 --> 09:58.000 Yeah.

09:58.000 --> 10:02.000 So they'd have the 13.1 like circle things and, and 21 point whatever.

10:02.000 --> 10:05.000 26.2 miles for a full marathon.

10:05.000 --> 10:06.000 Yes.

10:06.000 --> 10:07.000 Yes.

10:07.000 --> 10:08.000 Fuck that.

10:08.000 --> 10:09.000 Dude, they had all those.

10:09.000 --> 10:10.000 Ultra marathon, 50k.

10:10.000 --> 10:11.000 Yes.

10:11.000 --> 10:12.000 Jesus.

10:12.000 --> 10:13.000 Yeah.

10:13.000 --> 10:14.000 That's our boy, Eric, right there.

10:14.000 --> 10:15.000 Yeah.

10:15.000 --> 10:18.000 And I'm not saying the sport itself or the activity itself is evil.

10:18.000 --> 10:24.000 These people just took it to an extreme that I haven't, that I don't care for.

10:24.000 --> 10:25.000 Yeah.

10:25.000 --> 10:27.000 People that love to run, love to run, man.

10:27.000 --> 10:28.000 Yeah.

10:28.000 --> 10:29.000 Yeah.

10:29.000 --> 10:32.000 Cause I met my wife, she does marathons.

10:32.000 --> 10:35.000 I've, you know, and her and her friends and they do it and they have a, you know, they

10:35.000 --> 10:36.000 come back.

10:36.000 --> 10:37.000 I see you backbuddling right now, Jeff.

10:37.000 --> 10:38.000 No, tell it like it is.

10:38.000 --> 10:39.000 Well, no.

10:39.000 --> 10:40.000 Those people are crazy.

10:40.000 --> 10:41.000 Marathons.

10:41.000 --> 10:42.000 I do marathons.

10:42.000 --> 10:46.000 I do marathons, but they involve Netflix and my couch.

10:46.000 --> 10:47.000 Yeah.

10:47.000 --> 10:48.000 Exactly.

10:48.000 --> 10:51.000 Have you guys heard of the sound to narrows?

10:51.000 --> 10:56.000 The one they do like through, I think it's like UP and whatnot.

10:56.000 --> 10:57.000 Yeah.

10:57.000 --> 10:58.000 Yeah.

10:58.000 --> 10:59.000 Sounds to narrows.

10:59.000 --> 11:00.000 That should be pretty easy.

11:00.000 --> 11:01.000 We're the guys that know that.

11:01.000 --> 11:02.000 Well, I'm sure you've heard of it.

11:02.000 --> 11:03.000 We've never heard of this, dude.

11:03.000 --> 11:04.000 No.

11:04.000 --> 11:07.000 I did that in the fourth grade and I was in a running club.

11:07.000 --> 11:12.000 And so I did the half marathon and that's the day I learned that I don't like running.

11:12.000 --> 11:13.000 In the fourth grade?

11:13.000 --> 11:14.000 Yeah.

11:14.000 --> 11:15.000 I was in this running club, man.

11:15.000 --> 11:16.000 You guys are evil.

11:16.000 --> 11:18.000 I wanted to do it and I did it.

11:18.000 --> 11:22.000 I went all the way through and I said, I'll never, the only way I'll run is if I'm playing

11:22.000 --> 11:23.000 football, baseball.

11:23.000 --> 11:25.000 Hey, you know what?

11:25.000 --> 11:29.000 That is awesome because you found out that you didn't want to do that.

11:29.000 --> 11:30.000 That's the same thing.

11:30.000 --> 11:35.000 I had an instructor in sub school that said he sucks a dick every 10 years to make sure

11:35.000 --> 11:41.000 he doesn't like it because he would hate to be like on his deathbed, like in a vegetative

11:41.000 --> 11:44.000 state and have some like weird orderly.

11:44.000 --> 11:48.000 I realized, man, I missed out on sucking dick for my whole life and I liked it.

11:48.000 --> 11:49.000 Right?

11:49.000 --> 11:50.000 That's terrible.

11:50.000 --> 11:51.000 Same thing.

11:51.000 --> 11:52.000 Sorry.

11:52.000 --> 11:53.000 You can cut all that out, Scott.

11:54.000 --> 11:56.000 No, I'll cut out part of it.

11:56.000 --> 11:57.000 Yeah.

11:57.000 --> 11:58.000 Yeah.

11:58.000 --> 11:59.000 That's going to be played in a loop.

12:02.000 --> 12:03.000 That's awesome.

12:03.000 --> 12:04.000 I was with you right up till you said.

12:04.000 --> 12:07.000 And then I was like, oh, that's not going to be good.

12:10.000 --> 12:12.000 You should have went with the word.

12:13.000 --> 12:17.000 So what, what he actually said was, uh, he sucks two dicks a year.

12:17.000 --> 12:19.000 One to make sure he doesn't like it.

12:19.000 --> 12:22.000 And the second one to make sure the first one wasn't just a bad experience.

12:23.000 --> 12:24.000 Yeah.

12:24.000 --> 12:25.000 You can't do anything just once.

12:27.000 --> 12:35.000 Hey, if you like or dislike, uh, a running, especially, uh, Mike's joke.

12:35.000 --> 12:36.000 Yeah.

12:38.000 --> 12:39.000 Yeah.

12:39.000 --> 12:42.000 1-855-474-8272.

12:42.000 --> 12:43.000 Give us a call.

12:44.000 --> 12:46.000 That is if, yeah, go ahead.

12:47.000 --> 12:51.000 If you want to hear more horribly dark, terrible jokes, let us know.

12:52.000 --> 12:53.000 Listen live on our discord.

12:54.000 --> 12:54.000 Yeah.

12:54.000 --> 12:55.000 Well, thank you.

12:55.000 --> 13:02.000 See, you know, uh, Scott, uh, uh, what, what, what went on today, Scott?

13:03.000 --> 13:05.000 Oh, I did the, um, well, fuck dude.

13:05.000 --> 13:07.000 I had a whole Tacoma day.

13:07.000 --> 13:16.000 I did the, uh, grit city comic show, but before I went there, um, I stopped at, at the valley and had, had brunch.

13:17.000 --> 13:17.000 Oh man.

13:18.000 --> 13:19.000 I saw some pictures in the discord.

13:20.000 --> 13:20.000 Dude.

13:20.000 --> 13:21.000 The valley is the best.

13:22.000 --> 13:24.000 I just have to say it's the best loaded mimosas.

13:25.000 --> 13:25.000 Yeah.

13:26.000 --> 13:27.000 It's fucking unreal.

13:27.000 --> 13:31.000 And then, um, they've got new, it looks like new t-shirts and sweatshirts out.

13:32.000 --> 13:35.000 And then, uh, they had a vinyl record.

13:35.000 --> 13:37.000 Uh, the sound of the valley it's called.

13:37.000 --> 13:40.000 So if you're a vinyl fan and you like local music.

13:40.000 --> 13:41.000 Yes.

13:41.000 --> 13:42.000 Um, yeah.

13:42.000 --> 13:44.000 Stop in there and grab one of their little vinyl.

13:44.000 --> 13:45.000 Not, not little.

13:45.000 --> 13:46.000 Right.

13:46.000 --> 13:48.000 So they made a mix, a mix vinyl.

13:48.000 --> 13:50.000 Um, yeah, it sounds, it looks like it's local music.

13:50.000 --> 13:51.000 I don't have a vinyl player.

13:51.000 --> 13:52.000 Right.

13:52.000 --> 13:54.000 And so I didn't grab one, but it says record player.

13:55.000 --> 13:56.000 Yeah.

13:56.000 --> 13:56.000 Yeah.

13:56.000 --> 13:57.000 Record player.

13:57.000 --> 13:58.000 Yeah.

13:58.000 --> 13:59.000 Yeah.

13:59.000 --> 14:00.000 Record player.

14:00.000 --> 14:01.000 Well, it just, everything says vinyl.

14:01.000 --> 14:02.000 It doesn't say by the record.

14:02.000 --> 14:03.000 Right.

14:03.000 --> 14:04.000 Yeah.

14:04.000 --> 14:06.000 Oh, that's what the cool kids call it.

14:07.000 --> 14:08.000 Yeah.

14:08.000 --> 14:09.000 I regret.

14:09.000 --> 14:10.000 I have the ones in my phonograph.

14:10.000 --> 14:11.000 I know.

14:11.000 --> 14:19.000 But the valley, Mike is a, this in a cylinder is our, is kind of a local, um, music, music

14:19.000 --> 14:20.000 place.

14:20.000 --> 14:21.000 Uh, doubt here.

14:21.000 --> 14:23.000 They do, um, what everything, right?

14:23.000 --> 14:25.000 Jeff, like, we've seen punk bands.

14:25.000 --> 14:26.000 We've seen comedy.

14:26.000 --> 14:28.000 I've seen jazz there.

14:28.000 --> 14:29.000 What else?

14:29.000 --> 14:30.000 Oh, everything.

14:30.000 --> 14:31.000 Everything.

14:31.000 --> 14:34.000 If you want, if you want to be heard there, you pay, you do what you do to get on there

14:34.000 --> 14:36.000 and you get, and they'll let you.

14:36.000 --> 14:37.000 They're always having shows.

14:37.000 --> 14:38.000 It's the best.

14:38.000 --> 14:39.000 Yeah.

14:39.000 --> 14:41.000 And the great thing, they haven't changed for nobody.

14:41.000 --> 14:42.000 Nope.

14:42.000 --> 14:43.000 And I think that that's awesome.

14:43.000 --> 14:46.000 It's been the, the, the quality that hasn't changed.

14:46.000 --> 14:47.000 And that's a good thing.

14:47.000 --> 14:48.000 Of course.

14:48.000 --> 14:50.000 And, but the, the aesthetics.

14:50.000 --> 14:55.000 The, the clientele, uh, it stayed the same.

14:55.000 --> 15:00.000 When, when I, I think when I go there, I think I'm going to feel like it's the same experience

15:00.000 --> 15:02.000 I had since the last time.

15:02.000 --> 15:03.000 Yep.

15:03.000 --> 15:04.000 I went.

15:04.000 --> 15:05.000 Yeah.

15:05.000 --> 15:06.000 1111 as well.

15:06.000 --> 15:07.000 Um, owned by the same people, great people.

15:07.000 --> 15:09.000 And, uh, they're both kind of ran the same.

15:09.000 --> 15:10.000 That's just fantastic.

15:10.000 --> 15:12.000 But we hang out at the valley more often than not.

15:12.000 --> 15:13.000 So.

15:13.000 --> 15:14.000 Yeah.

15:14.000 --> 15:15.000 I was just thinking about the video.

15:15.000 --> 15:18.000 I was going to find the video of the promo for a good city podcast where that's

15:18.000 --> 15:21.000 Oh, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think, I don't know what you should be posted

15:21.000 --> 15:22.000 now.

15:22.000 --> 15:23.000 I don't know.

15:23.000 --> 15:26.000 This video might need to be taken off the internet.

15:26.000 --> 15:31.000 No, because the opening shot is, uh, is the valley.

15:31.000 --> 15:32.000 The opening shot is us.

15:32.000 --> 15:33.000 The valley.

15:33.000 --> 15:34.000 Yeah.

15:34.000 --> 15:35.000 Yeah.

15:35.000 --> 15:39.000 But, uh, but yeah, anyway, after, um, Oh, go ahead.

15:39.000 --> 15:41.000 Oh no, go, go ahead.

15:41.000 --> 15:42.000 Cause we're moving on.

15:42.000 --> 15:46.000 So after you finished that awesome, uh, uh, uh, breakfast you went to.

15:46.000 --> 15:47.000 Yeah.

15:47.000 --> 15:52.000 Then we, um, do we, we just, uh, went up to the street, grabbed the light rail and, um,

15:52.000 --> 15:57.000 wrote into the, uh, convention center, checked out the, uh, grit city comic show.

15:57.000 --> 15:58.000 It's there six years.

15:58.000 --> 16:01.000 I was talking to, uh, James, um, the guy who puts it on.

16:01.000 --> 16:04.000 He's, he's been on, we have, um, older episodes.

16:04.000 --> 16:07.000 If you want to, um, he used to do the jet city comic show.

16:07.000 --> 16:11.000 And before that he was part of Emerald city comic con.

16:11.000 --> 16:15.000 Um, but he's been doing the grit city comic show down here for the last six years.

16:15.000 --> 16:20.000 And so, um, I should have recorded with him, but man, the guys, you know, he's humped up.

16:20.000 --> 16:21.000 He's busy, busy.

16:21.000 --> 16:22.000 And so, uh, right.

16:22.000 --> 16:23.000 That's his Christmas Eve, man.

16:23.000 --> 16:24.000 Yeah.

16:24.000 --> 16:25.000 I mean, he plans all year for this.

16:25.000 --> 16:26.000 Right.

16:26.000 --> 16:27.000 So, yeah.

16:27.000 --> 16:28.000 Um, but just neat, man.

16:28.000 --> 16:29.000 The artwork's neat.

16:29.000 --> 16:35.000 Uh, they had, um, the artwork this year was like the iron giant sit sitting on top of

16:35.000 --> 16:36.000 the Tacoma dome.

16:36.000 --> 16:38.000 Oh, it's just, that sounds cool.

16:38.000 --> 16:39.000 Sorry.

16:39.000 --> 16:40.000 I sneezed.

16:40.000 --> 16:41.000 Oh, it's just cool.

16:41.000 --> 16:42.000 It's cool.

16:42.000 --> 16:43.000 It's cool.

16:43.000 --> 16:44.000 It's cool.

16:44.000 --> 16:45.000 I sneezed.

16:45.000 --> 16:46.000 Oh yeah.

16:46.000 --> 16:47.000 What happened?

16:47.000 --> 16:48.000 No, Jesus Christ.

16:48.000 --> 16:50.000 You stopped talking and it got quiet.

16:50.000 --> 16:54.000 I tried to mute it, but, um, I, on my head almost popped off my shoulders.

16:54.000 --> 16:55.000 Jesus.

16:55.000 --> 17:01.000 Um, so yeah, they had, uh, the iron giant sitting on the Tacoma dome and then they had like a

17:01.000 --> 17:03.000 giant kind of dragon thing.

17:03.000 --> 17:05.000 I'm like busting out of the Tacoma dome.

17:05.000 --> 17:06.000 Super cool artwork.

17:06.000 --> 17:13.000 Um, and then all kinds of people there, uh, a bunch of friends of the show, uh, SOS wrestling.

17:13.000 --> 17:20.000 So we, again, saw Ethan HD, um, all caps, um, got to see him big hugs.

17:20.000 --> 17:22.000 Uh, his wife was there as well.

17:22.000 --> 17:23.000 Yeah.

17:23.000 --> 17:28.000 Um, the, um, freeze dried candy guy, galactic druid treats.

17:28.000 --> 17:29.000 Uh, yeah.

17:29.000 --> 17:32.000 Still galactic druid.com.

17:32.000 --> 17:33.000 Sorry.

17:33.000 --> 17:35.000 I'm going to give him all little plugs right now.

17:35.000 --> 17:36.000 Yeah.

17:36.000 --> 17:37.000 Yeah.

17:37.000 --> 17:38.000 Also list them off.

17:38.000 --> 17:39.000 Yeah.

17:39.000 --> 17:40.000 Mark Monlux.

17:40.000 --> 17:42.000 Um, he's a com, uh, comic.

17:42.000 --> 17:44.000 He, he draws, uh, comics.

17:44.000 --> 17:45.000 He's been drawing.

17:45.000 --> 17:46.000 This is pretty cool.

17:46.000 --> 17:47.000 He's been drawing.

17:47.000 --> 17:50.000 Um, I don't know how you would put it.

17:50.000 --> 17:53.000 Alternative posters, um, for movies.

17:53.000 --> 17:55.000 They've been playing at weird elephant.

17:55.000 --> 17:59.000 So weird elephant is like the, how would you describe it?

17:59.000 --> 18:00.000 Jeff?

18:00.000 --> 18:02.000 It's the cult movie show.

18:02.000 --> 18:03.000 Yeah.

18:03.000 --> 18:04.000 Yeah.

18:04.000 --> 18:09.000 Uh, uh, Rocky Horror picture shows and the, um, anything they'd show at midnight, what

18:09.000 --> 18:10.000 they call like a midnight movie.

18:10.000 --> 18:17.000 Uh, that that's putting very generally and very, very, um, but that type of genre.

18:17.000 --> 18:18.000 Yeah.

18:18.000 --> 18:19.000 He had some, he had some horror stuff.

18:19.000 --> 18:20.000 He had Metropolis.

18:20.000 --> 18:23.000 He had, um, Night of the Living Dead.

18:23.000 --> 18:27.000 He had a bunch of horror, um, and a bunch of just like weird movies, like kind of, um,

18:27.000 --> 18:28.000 yeah.

18:28.000 --> 18:29.000 Pulpy cult movies.

18:29.000 --> 18:30.000 Right.

18:30.000 --> 18:33.000 So he's been, he's been, yeah, he's been doing their, their posters.

18:33.000 --> 18:36.000 Of their weekly posters and then selling them there.

18:36.000 --> 18:42.000 And then he also said next week, um, if you're local next weekend is, uh, art in the, um,

18:42.000 --> 18:45.000 Armory, um, in Tacoma.

18:45.000 --> 18:48.000 So, um, it's going to have a bunch of, uh, artists there.

18:48.000 --> 18:50.000 I haven't looked it up, but I'm sure I will.

18:50.000 --> 18:52.000 And there'll be a link in the notes.

18:52.000 --> 18:58.000 I think every, every Metropolis has a, has a, uh, concert venue called the Armory.

18:58.000 --> 18:59.000 Yeah.

18:59.000 --> 19:02.000 Well, I think a lot of VA places call them the Armories and a lot of VA.

19:02.000 --> 19:04.000 And a lot of VA, uh, places.

19:04.000 --> 19:05.000 Oh, and every town.

19:05.000 --> 19:06.000 Oh, and yeah.

19:06.000 --> 19:11.000 Um, they'll let you rent them out for, for concerts and shows and stuff.

19:11.000 --> 19:15.000 A lot of, a lot of places, a lot of punk bands used to do that back in the day.

19:15.000 --> 19:16.000 Yeah.

19:16.000 --> 19:17.000 Yeah.

19:17.000 --> 19:21.000 Um, I think it's an actually, our actual Armory here though, because of the, um.

19:21.000 --> 19:23.000 So, so is the one here thing.

19:23.000 --> 19:24.000 Yeah.

19:24.000 --> 19:25.000 But maybe it is everywhere.

19:25.000 --> 19:27.000 It's, it's former, it's former Armory.

19:27.000 --> 19:29.000 It's the one on Fort Snelling.

19:29.000 --> 19:30.000 Wait a minute.

19:30.000 --> 19:31.000 Oh, there you go.

19:31.000 --> 19:38.000 Um, and then, uh, I can't not last, but not least of course is, uh, Ken, Ken Carlson.

19:38.000 --> 19:39.000 Yeah.

19:39.000 --> 19:40.000 The best.

19:40.000 --> 19:41.000 Yeah.

19:41.000 --> 19:42.000 I got to see him.

19:42.000 --> 19:43.000 Booth.

19:43.000 --> 19:44.000 How much stuff he does.

19:44.000 --> 19:45.000 How big his booth is.

19:45.000 --> 19:46.000 Dude.

19:46.000 --> 19:47.000 You can't stop him, man.

19:47.000 --> 19:53.000 He's got posters and prints and books and like the guy, he wrote a book and, and not just

19:53.000 --> 19:54.000 that.

19:54.000 --> 20:01.000 He has like, um, dude, uh, like comics, um, political comics, uh, like actual comic books.

20:01.000 --> 20:02.000 He wrote a comic book series.

20:02.000 --> 20:08.000 Um, and we're kind of burying the, the, the lead that he did a movie just recently.

20:08.000 --> 20:09.000 Oh, more than one.

20:09.000 --> 20:10.000 Yeah.

20:10.000 --> 20:10.000 Yeah.

20:10.000 --> 20:13.000 And just recently though, the most, most recent, I guess that's what I'm trying to say.

20:13.000 --> 20:15.000 Um, it's called the hunger, right?

20:15.000 --> 20:16.000 Yeah.

20:16.000 --> 20:17.000 Yep.

20:17.000 --> 20:22.000 And it won like best Washington state movie at a, at a, uh, movie for, for Washington,

20:22.000 --> 20:25.000 best Washington state main movie, something like that.

20:25.000 --> 20:26.000 Yeah.

20:26.000 --> 20:29.000 Penny Parabas won a few awards as well.

20:29.000 --> 20:30.000 Yeah.

20:30.000 --> 20:31.000 Yeah.

20:31.000 --> 20:32.000 That was a few.

20:32.000 --> 20:36.000 That's where we kind of grabbed, grabbed onto him, uh, that he invited us to the premiere

20:36.000 --> 20:37.000 for that one.

20:37.000 --> 20:41.000 And we hung out with him and the, and the actors and, uh, and then for the hunger, you

20:41.000 --> 20:43.000 hung out with him at the, the other premiere.

20:43.000 --> 20:46.000 So thank God he continues to invite us.

20:46.000 --> 20:47.000 I know.

20:47.000 --> 20:48.000 Right.

20:48.000 --> 20:49.000 You know, it's funny.

20:49.000 --> 20:51.000 Uh, I, I loved, he did.

20:51.000 --> 20:55.000 Um, oh, I, uh, he had a web series called, um, I'm going to go to the next one.

20:55.000 --> 20:58.000 Um, oh, I want to, I'm dead drift.

20:58.000 --> 20:59.000 It was called dead drift.

20:59.000 --> 21:00.000 Yes.

21:00.000 --> 21:04.000 Uh, and, and that's where I first, first, um, saw him.

21:04.000 --> 21:09.000 And I didn't know, like he's in the, in the show and I didn't realize that he was like

21:09.000 --> 21:10.000 the director writer.

21:10.000 --> 21:11.000 Right.

21:11.000 --> 21:12.000 And, um, I loved it at the time it came out.

21:12.000 --> 21:15.000 I thought like, it was, I was like, this shit is so funny.

21:15.000 --> 21:16.000 It was on YouTube.

21:16.000 --> 21:22.000 Um, and he came on and he was like, maybe one of my first little, like, uh, um, like,

21:22.000 --> 21:25.000 I'm like, Oh my God, I can't believe this guy's coming on the podcast.

21:25.000 --> 21:26.000 Right.

21:26.000 --> 21:27.000 Right.

21:27.000 --> 21:29.000 Uh, and he's a total, like just buddy.

21:29.000 --> 21:30.000 Now we hang out all the time.

21:30.000 --> 21:31.000 So kind of cool.

21:31.000 --> 21:37.000 No, he's a very, very down to earth guy, but like, uh, read, read some of his, uh, screenplay

21:37.000 --> 21:38.000 sometime or scripts.

21:38.000 --> 21:39.000 Yeah.

21:39.000 --> 21:40.000 Oh, he doesn't give me those.

21:40.000 --> 21:41.000 He doesn't give me those.

21:41.000 --> 21:42.000 He only gives those to you guys.

21:42.000 --> 21:44.000 He doesn't, he doesn't trust me.

21:44.000 --> 21:49.000 Oh, I hope he listens to this and he definitely hears this.

21:49.000 --> 21:50.000 I hope, I hope so.

21:50.000 --> 21:55.000 And all, and, and all fairness though, that was for a, a project that didn't quite come,

21:55.000 --> 21:57.000 come, come together for, for that.

21:57.000 --> 22:00.000 But I wouldn't know because I didn't get to read it.

22:00.000 --> 22:01.000 You didn't get to read it.

22:01.000 --> 22:05.000 Good thoughts for me.

22:05.000 --> 22:06.000 Yeah.

22:06.000 --> 22:07.000 That was my day, man.

22:07.000 --> 22:08.000 And then, uh, and then I rolled home.

22:08.000 --> 22:09.000 Oh, there was one other guy.

22:09.000 --> 22:10.000 There was an author, dude.

22:10.000 --> 22:14.000 Uh, he wrote this book, um, called the bad-ass.

22:14.000 --> 22:18.000 Um, his name's Ben Thompson and, uh, he's a local guy.

22:18.000 --> 22:20.000 And I had no idea that he was going to be there.

22:20.000 --> 22:21.000 I actually had this book.

22:21.000 --> 22:25.000 It's one of my favorites is published early two thousands.

22:25.000 --> 22:29.000 And it's not like, um, it, I don't know.

22:29.000 --> 22:31.000 It's kind of a, you just pick it up.

22:31.000 --> 22:35.000 It has different, like just different, it covers different people that were like bad-asses

22:35.000 --> 22:36.000 in history.

22:36.000 --> 22:37.000 Right.

22:37.000 --> 22:38.000 Right.

22:38.000 --> 22:39.000 Um, so it's pretty fun.

22:39.000 --> 22:40.000 And he was there.

22:40.000 --> 22:41.000 Really nice guy.

22:41.000 --> 22:44.000 We, we chatted for a bit.

22:44.000 --> 22:46.000 That is not, that's the best part.

22:46.000 --> 22:50.000 When, when you get to kind of click on somebody that you didn't know was going to be there.

22:50.000 --> 22:53.000 And it's just like, Oh, I know you.

22:55.000 --> 22:55.000 Cool.

22:55.000 --> 22:57.000 Did you get your questions answered?

22:57.000 --> 22:58.000 I did.

22:58.000 --> 23:00.000 Um, it was exactly like that, dude.

23:00.000 --> 23:06.000 I was walking by and I looked over and, um, the cover of the, of his book is pretty.

23:07.000 --> 23:12.000 Um, like, you know, like anything you've seen or you've read, you've seen it, you recognize

23:12.000 --> 23:12.000 it.

23:12.000 --> 23:13.000 Right.

23:13.000 --> 23:14.000 And then, and that was his behind him.

23:14.000 --> 23:16.000 And I saw that and I was like, what the fuck?

23:16.000 --> 23:17.000 I went over.

23:17.000 --> 23:18.000 I was like, Oh, did you write this?

23:18.000 --> 23:19.000 And he's like, yeah, man.

23:19.000 --> 23:21.000 I was like, get the fuck out of here.

23:21.000 --> 23:22.000 No, you didn't.

23:22.000 --> 23:25.000 Oh, for a little while.

23:25.000 --> 23:27.000 And, um, yeah, that was the highlight, right?

23:27.000 --> 23:33.000 Like I knew everybody, not that seeing all the people I didn't know, or I did know whoops.

23:33.000 --> 23:37.000 It's not, not like seeing all the people I did know wasn't fun.

23:37.000 --> 23:38.000 Right.

23:38.000 --> 23:39.000 It was fun and it was cool.

23:39.000 --> 23:44.000 And I, but, um, it was, it was the, the, you know, the, he was a notch off guard.

23:44.000 --> 23:45.000 Yeah.

23:45.000 --> 23:46.000 Well, it was, he just caught me off guard.

23:46.000 --> 23:48.000 I didn't expect that guy to be there.

23:48.000 --> 23:49.000 Right.

23:49.000 --> 23:50.000 I didn't know he was going to be there.

23:50.000 --> 23:52.000 And so seeing him there was really cool.

23:52.000 --> 23:52.000 Right.

23:52.000 --> 23:54.000 And they had some, dude, they had some other cool things.

23:54.000 --> 24:01.000 They had the, oh, the Ghostbusters car and a whole group of people, um, role playing Ghostbusters,

24:01.000 --> 24:05.000 um, cosplaying, I should say, not role playing, cosplaying Ghostbusters.

24:05.000 --> 24:08.000 They had the car from, what was that?

24:08.000 --> 24:09.000 They do that later.

24:09.000 --> 24:13.000 Yeah, probably the con P crews.

24:13.000 --> 24:14.000 You never know.

24:14.000 --> 24:15.000 Slimey baby.

24:15.000 --> 24:19.000 Um, dude, there was all kinds of cosplayers.

24:19.000 --> 24:23.000 Uh, they had all the, um, the halo.

24:23.000 --> 24:25.000 The halo group was there.

24:25.000 --> 24:30.000 They had, um, the Legos set up with trains running around.

24:30.000 --> 24:32.000 It was super cool.

24:32.000 --> 24:33.000 Yeah.

24:33.000 --> 24:36.000 Um, oh, the car from supernatural was there.

24:36.000 --> 24:37.000 Yeah.

24:37.000 --> 24:38.000 So, yeah, I don't know.

24:38.000 --> 24:39.000 It was just really fun, man.

24:39.000 --> 24:42.000 A lot of pictures, uh, just a really good time.

24:42.000 --> 24:48.000 I, I almost wish it was two days, but then I know that I probably wouldn't go for two days.

24:48.000 --> 24:49.000 You know what I mean?

24:49.000 --> 24:50.000 Yeah.

24:50.000 --> 24:51.000 Agreed.

24:51.000 --> 24:57.000 I think for that genre where it's mostly comic books, you don't need two days, you know,

24:57.000 --> 24:58.000 you know what I mean?

24:58.000 --> 25:00.000 Uh, and or creator, more creator.

25:00.000 --> 25:05.000 Now if they, when they start throwing in more, um, that's where they get off, you know,

25:05.000 --> 25:10.000 they, they, or, or, or they move away from that category of cons is when they start adding,

25:10.000 --> 25:15.000 um, uh, celebrities and people other than a creator.

25:15.000 --> 25:15.000 Agreed.

25:15.000 --> 25:20.000 And most of their celebrities were, um, are comic book, um, writers or artists.

25:20.000 --> 25:21.000 Related.

25:21.000 --> 25:22.000 Yeah.

25:22.000 --> 25:23.000 And that's fine.

25:23.000 --> 25:24.000 That's fine.

25:24.000 --> 25:25.000 Cause they, they're creating in that thing.

25:25.000 --> 25:26.000 Yeah.

25:26.000 --> 25:27.000 This is a comic book show, man.

25:27.000 --> 25:31.000 Well, they did one year where they had, they had a lot of, um, they had some actors cause

25:31.000 --> 25:32.000 they had like the kid from E.T.

25:32.000 --> 25:34.000 They had the, Oh, right.

25:34.000 --> 25:35.000 The one year we had a booth.

25:35.000 --> 25:40.000 Remember they had the one guy from, uh, Z nation, the older guy from.

25:40.000 --> 25:41.000 Right.

25:41.000 --> 25:41.000 Yeah.

25:41.000 --> 25:42.000 Yeah.

25:42.000 --> 25:46.000 A bunch of people there, but I think, um, I think the Puyallup one that comes in and just

25:46.000 --> 25:50.000 brings in like 40 different celebrities or 50 or whatever it is.

25:50.000 --> 25:51.000 Yeah.

25:51.000 --> 25:52.000 The con.

25:52.000 --> 25:53.000 Yeah.

25:53.000 --> 25:54.000 I forgot the state cons, the Washington state cons.

25:54.000 --> 25:55.000 Yeah.

25:55.000 --> 25:56.000 So I think they just.

25:56.000 --> 25:57.000 Yeah.

25:57.000 --> 25:59.000 They've been focusing more right on comic books.

25:59.000 --> 26:02.000 You know, something, um, I think you guys might like.

26:02.000 --> 26:08.000 Um, is they, um, they made it AI artwork free.

26:08.000 --> 26:10.000 So you could not, yeah.

26:10.000 --> 26:11.000 Do not.

26:11.000 --> 26:12.000 Oh, that's cool.

26:12.000 --> 26:14.000 Well, I was going to say that, especially during this time.

26:14.000 --> 26:16.000 You mean the artwork was AI free?

26:16.000 --> 26:21.000 Um, no, the con is AI artwork free.

26:21.000 --> 26:23.000 Did I say that right?

26:23.000 --> 26:24.000 Oh, I see what you're saying.

26:24.000 --> 26:25.000 Yeah.

26:25.000 --> 26:29.000 I, I, so I was, I was hearing they made AI artwork free.

26:29.000 --> 26:32.000 And I was like, what do you mean they made their artwork AI free?

26:32.000 --> 26:33.000 Like.

26:33.000 --> 26:34.000 Yes.

26:34.000 --> 26:35.000 Yes.

26:35.000 --> 26:38.000 Um, the con is free of AI artwork.

26:38.000 --> 26:39.000 Yes.

26:39.000 --> 26:40.000 Gotcha.

26:40.000 --> 26:41.000 Yeah.

26:41.000 --> 26:44.000 Um, they, they, if, if you have a booth, like if you're a creator that uses AI artwork,

26:44.000 --> 26:46.000 you can't, you can't sell it.

26:46.000 --> 26:47.000 They won't.

26:47.000 --> 26:48.000 They, they were saying no.

26:48.000 --> 26:50.000 So I thought that was a good, good thing.

26:50.000 --> 26:53.000 Some people, I guess, didn't like it, but I, I thought it was a good thing.

26:53.000 --> 26:54.000 So.

26:54.000 --> 27:00.000 Well, it's still got time to, we got to shuffle it all out, but yeah, that's a good stand.

27:00.000 --> 27:02.000 Um, because we got generations, right?

27:02.000 --> 27:05.000 These guys are still alive making money off their hands.

27:05.000 --> 27:07.000 So I under, totally understand.

27:07.000 --> 27:10.000 I also understand where AI is not going to be stopped in any way, shape or form.

27:10.000 --> 27:14.000 So there's, there's just going to, we just got to have to make the rules, you know?

27:14.000 --> 27:16.000 Um, no hate.

27:16.000 --> 27:22.000 Um, but I would rather read a comic book made by a human being because it's part of

27:22.000 --> 27:24.000 the art that I like.

27:24.000 --> 27:29.000 Um, matter of fact, we were talking about people a long time ago in Florida.

27:29.000 --> 27:33.000 I ran into the guy who makes love and rockets and it's kind of one of the, like an indie

27:33.000 --> 27:36.000 comic book about a, uh, about a friendship.

27:36.000 --> 27:40.000 And I, and I told the guy, the only thing I can say is that you were the first comic book

27:40.000 --> 27:43.000 I read that wasn't like a superhero comic.

27:43.000 --> 27:49.000 You know, I thought to be a comic, you had to be like a, but that just the format of a comic

27:49.000 --> 27:52.000 is, uh, the panels and the pages and stuff like that.

27:52.000 --> 27:53.000 That's what makes it a course.

27:53.000 --> 27:55.000 And he just kind of smiled at me weird.

27:55.000 --> 28:00.000 And, uh, but, uh, you smiled at me weird.

28:00.000 --> 28:01.000 Okay.

28:01.000 --> 28:02.000 Where's your mom?

28:02.000 --> 28:03.000 Little boy.

28:03.000 --> 28:06.000 I was 45 at the time.

28:06.000 --> 28:08.000 That makes it funnier.

28:08.000 --> 28:10.000 It does.

28:10.000 --> 28:12.000 Uh, and, uh, I was, uh, I was 45 at the time.

28:12.000 --> 28:17.000 And, uh, but yeah, it's, it's the art.

28:17.000 --> 28:22.000 And, um, of course, you know, we're, we're taking, we're the generations of the footsteps

28:22.000 --> 28:23.000 for art and AI.

28:23.000 --> 28:24.000 So.

28:24.000 --> 28:25.000 Oh dude.

28:25.000 --> 28:26.000 I came look everybody.

28:26.000 --> 28:27.000 Yeah.

28:27.000 --> 28:33.000 $300 lighter with like, I don't know, 12 prints and two t-shirts and all kinds of shit.

28:33.000 --> 28:34.000 Right.

28:34.000 --> 28:35.000 I can't help myself.

28:35.000 --> 28:36.000 A book, a couple of books.

28:36.000 --> 28:38.000 Like that's just, that's why I go to these things.

28:38.000 --> 28:39.000 I think it's awesome.

28:39.000 --> 28:40.000 Yeah.

28:40.000 --> 28:41.000 Yeah.

28:41.000 --> 28:42.000 Yeah.

28:42.000 --> 28:43.000 It keeps a lot.

28:43.000 --> 28:44.000 Yeah.

28:44.000 --> 28:45.000 And I recommend it.

28:45.000 --> 28:46.000 If you guys, even out of towners, if you're hearing this, come start putting it on your

28:46.000 --> 28:51.000 schedule to get here to the, the, the, uh, grid city comic show and then go home.

28:51.000 --> 28:52.000 Oh man.

28:52.000 --> 28:56.000 I think if you're anywhere, if you're in a, in a city and you're in a hotel and they're

28:56.000 --> 29:01.000 having some kind of convention, just see if the conventional let you roll through their,

29:01.000 --> 29:02.000 um, their shopping section.

29:02.000 --> 29:03.000 Right.

29:03.000 --> 29:07.000 Like sometimes they'll let you like, uh, nor West con will let you go into the, uh, I forget

29:07.000 --> 29:09.000 what they call it, but the area they have the vendors area.

29:09.000 --> 29:11.000 You don't, you don't have to buy a ticket to the con.

29:11.000 --> 29:12.000 Right.

29:12.000 --> 29:12.000 Yeah.

29:12.000 --> 29:16.000 You can just go through the vendors area because that's awesome.

29:16.000 --> 29:18.000 Most of the vendor stuff is super cool.

29:18.000 --> 29:20.000 Not that you shouldn't pay for the con.

29:20.000 --> 29:21.000 You should always pay for the con.

29:21.000 --> 29:24.000 But like I said, some of them will just let you go.

29:24.000 --> 29:25.000 Um, yeah.

29:25.000 --> 29:28.000 And yeah, like if you see a con locally, just go.

29:28.000 --> 29:29.000 They're awesome.

29:29.000 --> 29:30.000 They're super fun.

29:30.000 --> 29:31.000 Highly recommend.

29:32.000 --> 29:35.000 Even if it's something that you're not into like furry con, just go.

29:36.000 --> 29:37.000 Right now.

29:37.000 --> 29:38.000 C notes.

29:38.000 --> 29:39.000 C notes.

29:39.000 --> 29:41.000 Oh, you know what?

29:41.000 --> 29:47.000 I, I, I, I, I have a coworker that's a furry and that we talked about, uh, you know,

29:47.000 --> 29:50.000 we have something in common, you know, we, we had the, um, the slightly furry.

29:50.000 --> 29:51.000 Cause you're a furry too?

29:51.000 --> 29:52.000 Oh.

29:52.000 --> 29:53.000 What's that?

29:53.000 --> 29:54.000 Cause you're a furry too?

29:54.000 --> 29:55.000 No, I couldn't do it.

29:55.000 --> 29:56.000 Yeah.

29:56.000 --> 29:59.000 I didn't even thought, man, putting stuff on and walking around.

29:59.000 --> 30:01.000 I'm crazy enough, Scott, as it is.

30:01.000 --> 30:02.000 All I need is another altar.

30:02.000 --> 30:03.000 It just looks hot.

30:03.000 --> 30:05.000 I just don't want to be so hot and sweaty, right?

30:05.000 --> 30:06.000 Yeah.

30:06.000 --> 30:08.000 Maybe that's, I don't know if you're into that, you know.

30:08.000 --> 30:09.000 Other than that, I would probably do.

30:09.000 --> 30:11.000 You could be a furry in winter.

30:11.000 --> 30:12.000 Yeah.

30:12.000 --> 30:13.000 That would be better.

30:13.000 --> 30:15.000 I'd be like, I'd be like a sunbird furry.

30:15.000 --> 30:18.000 What did you just dress up for on Halloween, Mike?

30:18.000 --> 30:19.000 Oh, wait, wait.

30:19.000 --> 30:20.000 Yeah.

30:20.000 --> 30:21.000 I got, I got to get into that.

30:21.000 --> 30:22.000 Wait, wait.

30:22.000 --> 30:23.000 We'll do a new transition.

30:23.000 --> 30:24.000 Great transition.

30:24.000 --> 30:25.000 Yes.

30:25.000 --> 30:26.000 All right.

30:26.000 --> 30:37.000 Hey, if you have a comic book show that you like in your area, share it with us at 1-855-474-8272.

30:37.000 --> 30:43.000 And we want to hear any experiences that you had at this Grit City comic book show.

30:43.000 --> 30:48.000 Call us at 1-855-474-8272.

30:48.000 --> 30:59.000 Now, getting back to the conversation about Mike's Halloween costume this year.

30:59.000 --> 31:03.000 Mike, please tell us what happened this Halloween.

31:03.000 --> 31:04.000 Yeah.

31:04.000 --> 31:13.000 So this year, I dressed up as a Care Bear because everyone knows that's exactly what I am.

31:13.000 --> 31:14.000 Yeah.

31:14.000 --> 31:17.000 This was a full, yeah, go ahead.

31:17.000 --> 31:18.000 I'm sorry.

31:18.000 --> 31:19.000 Yeah.

31:19.000 --> 31:22.000 Full on, like, was an adult onesie.

31:22.000 --> 31:23.000 Yeah.

31:23.000 --> 31:25.000 That the head came all the way over.

31:25.000 --> 31:26.000 The head and everything.

31:26.000 --> 31:27.000 Yep.

31:27.000 --> 31:31.000 And I had to choose the most appropriate Care Bear, so I was Grumpy Bear.

31:31.000 --> 31:32.000 Right.

31:32.000 --> 31:41.000 I did, you know, the younger kids, not so well versed in the ancient cartoons.

31:41.000 --> 31:42.000 Yeah.

31:42.000 --> 31:46.000 So I got asked if I was Sully a couple of times.

31:46.000 --> 31:47.000 Okay.

31:47.000 --> 31:51.000 And then one kid asked if I was Mike Wazowski.

31:51.000 --> 31:56.000 And I said, well, I think you're thinking of Sully, but nope, not him either.

31:58.000 --> 32:00.000 But yeah, it was a good time.

32:00.000 --> 32:01.000 Right on.

32:01.000 --> 32:03.000 Did you get a lot of trick-or-treaters?

32:04.000 --> 32:05.000 Not that many.

32:05.000 --> 32:09.000 I do my tendencies.

32:09.000 --> 32:18.000 I don't want to say OCD because I feel like I'm stealing people's whatever that is.

32:18.000 --> 32:20.000 It's just kind of like Xerox.

32:20.000 --> 32:21.000 Yeah.

32:21.000 --> 32:26.000 I do full-size candy bars so I can count how many I give out.

32:26.000 --> 32:27.000 Wow.

32:27.000 --> 32:30.000 So I'm not complaining about that.

32:30.000 --> 32:31.000 Easier that way.

32:31.000 --> 32:32.000 Yeah.

32:32.000 --> 32:34.000 I gave out 82 candy bars.

32:34.000 --> 32:35.000 Yeah.

32:35.000 --> 32:36.000 Very good.

32:36.000 --> 32:37.000 Yeah.

32:37.000 --> 32:39.000 Do you have more trick-or-treaters than anybody I know?

32:39.000 --> 32:43.000 Well, it was actually really light this year.

32:43.000 --> 32:45.000 I keep a, I always buy it.

32:45.000 --> 32:57.000 So I do the, the last three years I've done full-size candy bars, but I buy like a six pound bag of like the miscellaneous little bitty candy shits just for emergencies.

32:57.000 --> 33:01.000 Cause the first year I handed out all my candy bars and I was like, Oh shit.

33:01.000 --> 33:08.000 So my daughter takes a pillowcase around and she had come home and dropped it off cause it got too heavy and went back out.

33:08.000 --> 33:10.000 So I started handing her candy out.

33:10.000 --> 33:13.000 Oh, wow.

33:13.000 --> 33:15.000 That's fucking diabolical too.

33:15.000 --> 33:16.000 I know, right?

33:16.000 --> 33:17.000 You kind of cycle.

33:17.000 --> 33:18.000 She didn't notice.

33:18.000 --> 33:19.000 She never eats at all anyways.

33:19.000 --> 33:20.000 Right?

33:20.000 --> 33:21.000 That's hilarious.

33:21.000 --> 33:22.000 Well, that is smart.

33:22.000 --> 33:23.000 That is, yeah.

33:23.000 --> 33:24.000 You got a racket going on.

33:24.000 --> 33:30.000 You could get paid kids in the neighborhood to bring them, give them half your candy and you could just circle it back through.

33:30.000 --> 33:31.000 Right.

33:31.000 --> 33:36.000 So people were saying like one or two trick or treaters.

33:36.000 --> 33:39.000 I got like, we got like one or two, maybe that's it.

33:39.000 --> 33:40.000 Almost not.

33:40.000 --> 33:48.000 Oh, so we, when the weather's decent and it was, it had, it kind of stopped raining for the most part.

33:48.000 --> 33:52.000 Um, and it was, it was probably in the mid fifties.

33:52.000 --> 33:53.000 So it's pretty decent weather for us.

33:53.000 --> 34:04.000 Um, but when the weather's decent, like they, they'll bring like buses and fucking vans of kids to our neighborhood and they just run around.

34:04.000 --> 34:05.000 It's ridiculous.

34:05.000 --> 34:08.000 Oh, we know who lives in the nice neighborhood right now.

34:08.000 --> 34:09.000 Yeah.

34:09.000 --> 34:12.000 Oh, well, we had a friend like that too.

34:12.000 --> 34:16.000 We, we had a handful of people just in the local kids in the, in the cul-de-sac.

34:16.000 --> 34:18.000 Luckily we have a lot of younger kids now.

34:18.000 --> 34:29.000 And, uh, but in, in all, it was very, very small, but, uh, one of the, my wife's coworkers, she has like, she says 2000 easy.

34:29.000 --> 34:30.000 Yeah.

34:30.000 --> 34:31.000 Whoa.

34:31.000 --> 34:32.000 Two hundred.

34:32.000 --> 34:33.000 Yeah.

34:33.000 --> 34:34.000 Two thousand.

34:34.000 --> 34:35.000 Jesus.

34:35.000 --> 34:41.000 Dude, we drove through downtown Puyallup, like right around, you know, trick or treating time this year.

34:41.000 --> 34:45.000 And, um, it was packed, like just packed full of people.

34:45.000 --> 34:48.000 Like, and I was like, where are all these kids that they're not at our house?

34:48.000 --> 34:49.000 Like what the fuck?

34:49.000 --> 34:50.000 That's funny.

34:50.000 --> 34:51.000 But that's cool.

34:51.000 --> 34:53.000 Cause I'll just eat all the candies.

34:53.000 --> 34:54.000 I don't give shit.

34:54.000 --> 34:56.000 Oh, see, and I don't eat candy.

34:56.000 --> 34:59.000 So when we're done, I take all that shit to work and just give it away.

34:59.000 --> 35:00.000 Well, that sucks.

35:00.000 --> 35:01.000 Sorry.

35:01.000 --> 35:02.000 Yeah.

35:02.000 --> 35:03.000 Whatever.

35:03.000 --> 35:04.000 Yeah.

35:04.000 --> 35:09.000 So, uh, and I was thinking because my wife, I said, well, is Halloween ever going to be the way it was, but I guess it's always been this way.

35:09.000 --> 35:10.000 No.

35:10.000 --> 35:11.000 Depending where you lived.

35:11.000 --> 35:12.000 Yeah.

35:12.000 --> 35:18.000 If you lived in the city and, you know, in a place that's popular or you're very nice and generous like Mike, you know, you're going to get more trick or treaters.

35:18.000 --> 35:20.000 It's not really a thing.

35:20.000 --> 35:22.000 I mean, it sounds weird, but it'll go away.

35:22.000 --> 35:24.000 Like candy's not like a thing, right?

35:24.000 --> 35:25.000 Yeah.

35:25.000 --> 35:26.000 It used to be like a thing.

35:26.000 --> 35:27.000 Oh, candy.

35:27.000 --> 35:30.000 It was just, it was like a special thing, but it's not like a special thing.

35:30.000 --> 35:31.000 People can get candy.

35:31.000 --> 35:32.000 And.

35:32.000 --> 35:33.000 Well, yeah, you could get it.

35:33.000 --> 35:34.000 That's what Amazon is.

35:34.000 --> 35:35.000 Right.

35:35.000 --> 35:36.000 You know, Amazon.

35:36.000 --> 35:37.000 Don't care anymore.

35:37.000 --> 35:38.000 Right.

35:38.000 --> 35:39.000 It's not that big of a deal.

35:39.000 --> 35:40.000 It's not that thing.

35:40.000 --> 35:41.000 The dressing up's fun.

35:41.000 --> 35:42.000 And the running around at night is fun.

35:42.000 --> 35:43.000 Yeah.

35:43.000 --> 35:44.000 But it'll go away.

35:44.000 --> 35:45.000 Yeah.

35:45.000 --> 35:46.000 It's such a popular character.

35:46.000 --> 35:52.000 You know, there was an inordinate amount of slutty costumes this year.

35:52.000 --> 35:53.000 Whoa.

35:53.000 --> 35:54.000 A little awkward.

35:54.000 --> 35:55.000 Yeah.

35:55.000 --> 35:57.000 It's weird to hear from a Care Bear.

35:57.000 --> 35:58.000 You know what I'm saying?

35:58.000 --> 36:04.000 Well, so it's normally like little kids, but I like, I don't, I don't, I don't.

36:04.000 --> 36:05.000 What the fuck, dude?

36:05.000 --> 36:06.000 What do you say it?

36:06.000 --> 36:07.000 I don't know.

36:07.000 --> 36:09.000 I don't know where we're going with this, but I'm not sure.

36:09.000 --> 36:11.000 So like the moms of the little kids.

36:11.000 --> 36:16.000 The trick or treaters are normally little, little kids, but I don't like when, when the

36:16.000 --> 36:21.000 older kids come through, I don't, I don't stop them and say, Hey, you're too old for this.

36:21.000 --> 36:22.000 It's like, look, you know what?

36:22.000 --> 36:23.000 They could be out doing slutty.

36:23.000 --> 36:24.000 Get out of here.

36:24.000 --> 36:25.000 What are you doing?

36:25.000 --> 36:29.000 They could be out doing, I hope you could be out doing bad shit.

36:29.000 --> 36:30.000 Right.

36:30.000 --> 36:31.000 And they're just getting candy.

36:31.000 --> 36:32.000 So I don't care.

36:32.000 --> 36:33.000 Right.

36:33.000 --> 36:39.000 But the, the kids that were coming through were, you know, around my daughter's age, but

36:39.000 --> 36:44.000 there was, there was some that were like, there was probably five slutty angels and I guess

36:44.000 --> 36:45.000 I wasn't really paying attention.

36:45.000 --> 36:49.000 So I could have just been getting hit multiple times by the same group.

36:49.000 --> 36:51.000 By the same slutty angel?

36:51.000 --> 36:52.000 Yeah.

36:52.000 --> 36:55.000 Checking out the same slutty angel like five times?

36:55.000 --> 36:56.000 No, dude.

36:56.000 --> 36:59.000 I don't know what, you need to talk to somebody, brother.

36:59.000 --> 37:01.000 No, no, no.

37:01.000 --> 37:02.000 Listen to me, sir.

37:02.000 --> 37:05.000 There will be absolutely none of that shit.

37:05.000 --> 37:10.000 So that's what I was kind of interested, not interested, but kind of, it took notice

37:10.000 --> 37:16.000 of when I started going to cons with my, with my kid, that anime was, was hitting America.

37:16.000 --> 37:17.000 Yeah.

37:17.000 --> 37:18.000 And it's all slutty.

37:18.000 --> 37:19.000 Yeah.

37:19.000 --> 37:21.000 And all these girls, I said, who the fuck?

37:21.000 --> 37:25.000 You know, this is a 12 year old girl who says, Hey mom, I need this, this and a pair of,

37:25.000 --> 37:28.000 pair of fish neck stockings to go to, go to the con.

37:28.000 --> 37:34.000 And, and I thought, but as a parent, your kid comes up, I want to be Yakosuke from, from

37:34.000 --> 37:37.000 everybody loves, you know, everybody loves fish.

37:37.000 --> 37:39.000 And they're like, yeah, no problem.

37:39.000 --> 37:41.000 And then they don't.

37:41.000 --> 37:42.000 Until you see them wearing it.

37:42.000 --> 37:43.000 And then you're like, no, no.

37:43.000 --> 37:49.000 They didn't tell you the bad guy in this thing is a 35 year old cross dresser from an

37:49.000 --> 37:53.000 ultimate, ultimate dimension, you know, you know, and it's like, wow.

37:53.000 --> 37:58.000 Well, that's where it's kind of like, yeah, you need to read the fine print and all this

37:58.000 --> 37:59.000 now.

37:59.000 --> 38:01.000 We're just, the whole story kids.

38:01.000 --> 38:02.000 Tell me the whole story before I let you.

38:02.000 --> 38:03.000 Exactly.

38:03.000 --> 38:04.000 Like.

38:04.000 --> 38:07.000 I never got into anime.

38:07.000 --> 38:10.000 I could just, I never got into it at all.

38:10.000 --> 38:11.000 I wish I could.

38:11.000 --> 38:17.000 It sounds like there's really good stories, but, uh, every time I try to watch something,

38:17.000 --> 38:19.000 I'm just, I get so fucking bored.

38:19.000 --> 38:20.000 Yeah.

38:20.000 --> 38:23.000 Can I give you one that I think you'd like?

38:23.000 --> 38:24.000 Because I like it.

38:24.000 --> 38:25.000 Please.

38:25.000 --> 38:28.000 Champagne, Cham, Cham, Cham, Lou, Cham, plain.

38:28.000 --> 38:29.000 Cham, Lou.

38:29.000 --> 38:30.000 Yeah.

38:30.000 --> 38:31.000 Champlain Cham, Lou.

38:31.000 --> 38:35.000 It's about these two samurais and they're totally different.

38:35.000 --> 38:42.000 And they, uh, it's kind of like an odd couple type of thing, but they try to add modern.

38:42.000 --> 38:51.000 They play modern music to it and they'll do like, uh, when the, the, it was played on Adult

38:51.000 --> 38:54.000 Swim or whatever they call it a long time ago.

38:54.000 --> 38:55.000 Whole series already done.

38:55.000 --> 38:57.000 Uh, first season, I think is the best.

38:57.000 --> 38:59.000 I don't know about the second or the third.

38:59.000 --> 39:00.000 You know what?

39:00.000 --> 39:02.000 I can't say I can't, I've never gotten to animation.

39:02.000 --> 39:07.000 Cause, um, do you count, do you count, uh, Avatar as.

39:07.000 --> 39:10.000 Oh, that's American anime.

39:10.000 --> 39:14.000 So the two guys that did it are from America, but they went.

39:14.000 --> 39:15.000 Okay.

39:15.000 --> 39:17.000 And that style worked with.

39:17.000 --> 39:18.000 Yeah.

39:18.000 --> 39:19.000 They worked with Japanese anime.

39:19.000 --> 39:22.000 It's the closest I've ever gotten to, to watch an anime.

39:22.000 --> 39:23.000 So.

39:23.000 --> 39:27.000 Or to enjoy an anime, I should say.

39:27.000 --> 39:28.000 Okay, Jeff.

39:28.000 --> 39:32.000 Jeff, is that the, you're talking about Samurai Cham, Lou, right?

39:32.000 --> 39:33.000 Yeah.

39:33.000 --> 39:34.000 Samurai Cham, Lou.

39:34.000 --> 39:35.000 There we go.

39:35.000 --> 39:36.000 Yeah.

39:36.000 --> 39:37.000 Yeah.

39:37.000 --> 39:38.000 I threw the IMDB in the, in the chat.

39:38.000 --> 39:39.000 Thank you.

39:39.000 --> 39:42.000 Because yeah, I don't remember, but I remember I watched it with my, and that's why I liked

39:42.000 --> 39:43.000 it too.

39:43.000 --> 39:46.000 Cause I watched it with my son and we pointed out, you know, what was funny and what was cool.

39:46.000 --> 39:50.000 And they did just add it and it was in the nineties, you know, so it was kind of like,

39:50.000 --> 39:51.000 they threw little references.

39:51.000 --> 39:56.000 Like, so if the big boss came into town, he was carried instead of, uh, just a straight

39:56.000 --> 40:01.000 out, um, you know, where the two guys in front, two guys in back carries them.

40:01.000 --> 40:06.000 It's kind of in a low rider type of thing, you know, as he's walking, you know, so they

40:06.000 --> 40:11.000 do kind of poke fun, you know, it's kind of meta in a way, lack of a better term, but good

40:11.000 --> 40:12.000 story.

40:12.000 --> 40:18.000 You just like, it's like, like a male, a male, every anime fan says, Oh, but the story's

40:18.000 --> 40:19.000 the best story.

40:19.000 --> 40:20.000 Right.

40:20.000 --> 40:26.000 Well, it's like, to me, 10 minutes in, I put it, why am I watching a cartoon?

40:26.000 --> 40:27.000 Right.

40:27.000 --> 40:33.000 I put, I put it up as a soprano story type, you know, like what you call adult man, soap

40:33.000 --> 40:34.000 opera type of stuff.

40:34.000 --> 40:40.000 Cause it has just, just enough choppy choppy, you know, it's like, yeah, fuck that guy

40:40.000 --> 40:41.000 up.

40:41.000 --> 40:43.000 Like lone wolf type of guy.

40:43.000 --> 40:44.000 Yeah.

40:44.000 --> 40:47.000 If you, if you can't get into a samurai shampoo, you could always try that.

40:47.000 --> 40:49.000 The other one I put in there.

40:49.000 --> 40:50.000 Come on.

40:50.000 --> 40:52.000 I hear that one's really good.

40:52.000 --> 40:53.000 Does it have tentacles?

40:53.000 --> 40:55.000 I know broken has one.

40:55.000 --> 40:59.000 Dude, you're not helping your case with the sexy fucking.

40:59.000 --> 41:00.000 Oh, shut the fuck up.

41:00.000 --> 41:02.000 There is no case.

41:02.000 --> 41:03.000 Wow.

41:03.000 --> 41:06.000 What's the name of it then?

41:06.000 --> 41:07.000 You say it.

41:07.000 --> 41:08.000 What's the name of this anime you posted?

41:08.000 --> 41:09.000 You say it out loud.

41:09.000 --> 41:10.000 It's called high school.

41:10.000 --> 41:11.000 You need to be sure and watch it on like a, like Amazon or something.

41:11.000 --> 41:11.000 How many candy bars would you give her?

41:11.000 --> 41:11.000 She came up to you.

41:11.000 --> 41:12.000 Does she get a full size candy bar?

41:12.000 --> 41:13.000 She gets a candy bar every time she's, you know, fuck off.

41:13.000 --> 41:14.000 She's kind of thick.

41:14.000 --> 41:15.000 I don't think she needs candy bars.

41:15.000 --> 41:16.000 I don't think she needs candy bars.

41:16.000 --> 41:17.000 I don't think she needs candy bars.

41:17.000 --> 41:18.000 I don't think she needs candy bars.

41:18.000 --> 41:19.000 I don't think she needs candy bars.

41:19.000 --> 41:20.000 I don't think she needs candy bars.

41:20.000 --> 41:21.000 I don't think she needs candy bars.

41:21.000 --> 41:22.000 I don't think she needs candy bars.

41:22.000 --> 41:23.000 I don't think she needs candy bars.

41:23.000 --> 41:24.000 I don't think she needs candy bars.

41:24.000 --> 41:25.000 I don't think she needs candy bars.

41:25.000 --> 41:26.000 I don't think she needs candy bars.

41:26.000 --> 41:27.000 I don't think she needs candy bars.

41:27.000 --> 41:28.000 I don't think she needs candy bars.

41:28.000 --> 41:30.000 Does she get a full size candy bar fight?

41:30.000 --> 41:32.000 Oh wait, grumpy bear.

41:32.000 --> 41:35.000 She gets a candy bar every time she's, you know.

41:35.000 --> 41:37.000 Oh, fuck off.

41:37.000 --> 41:38.000 She's kind of thick.

41:38.000 --> 41:40.000 I don't think she needs candy bars.

41:40.000 --> 41:43.000 This is called high school double D, dude.

41:43.000 --> 41:44.000 That's fucked up.

41:44.000 --> 41:47.000 No, it's called high school DXD, fuck you.

41:47.000 --> 41:48.000 Yeah.

41:48.000 --> 41:50.000 What do the D's mean?

41:50.000 --> 41:54.000 Because it's demons and they're fighting.

41:54.000 --> 41:56.000 Okay, there you go.

41:56.000 --> 41:57.000 Demons against demons.

41:57.000 --> 41:58.000 Demons against demons.

41:58.000 --> 41:59.000 Yeah.

41:59.000 --> 42:00.000 Fuck, man.

42:00.000 --> 42:08.000 Hey, if you have a great anime that you'd like Scott to watch, give us a call at 1-855-474-8272.

42:08.000 --> 42:10.000 Yeah, we should give Scott homework.

42:10.000 --> 42:15.000 Scott, you need to watch some anime so that you can come back and report to us on the next one.

42:15.000 --> 42:16.000 Dude, I've tried it.

42:16.000 --> 42:17.000 Culture up, dude.

42:17.000 --> 42:17.000 Culture up.

42:17.000 --> 42:18.000 Let's go.

42:18.000 --> 42:19.000 You tried Cowboy Bebop?

42:19.000 --> 42:20.000 I tried that.

42:20.000 --> 42:21.000 I couldn't do it.

42:21.000 --> 42:22.000 That's a classic.

42:22.000 --> 42:23.000 Oh, yeah, me too.

42:23.000 --> 42:24.000 That's rough.

42:24.000 --> 42:25.000 Some places.

42:25.000 --> 42:28.000 There's a couple of other ones they tell you to watch at the very beginning.

42:28.000 --> 42:29.000 Ghost in the Machine.

42:29.000 --> 42:30.000 Is that one?

42:30.000 --> 42:34.000 Yeah, about the gay trucker guy that gets put in a woman's body.

42:34.000 --> 42:35.000 She has trouble.

42:35.000 --> 42:40.000 I watched the movie with Skylar Johansson and I was like, hmm.

42:40.000 --> 42:41.000 All right.

42:41.000 --> 42:43.000 There's a couple of them everybody always throws at you.

42:43.000 --> 42:44.000 I've just tried that.

42:44.000 --> 42:45.000 I'm like, oh.

42:45.000 --> 42:48.000 So if you're doing movies, Akira, that's a decent movie.

42:48.000 --> 42:50.000 Oh, maybe that's the other one.

42:50.000 --> 42:51.000 That's one.

42:51.000 --> 42:53.000 Yeah, Brogan has one he'd recommend you to watch.

42:53.000 --> 42:54.000 Oh.

42:54.000 --> 42:55.000 No.

42:55.000 --> 42:56.000 Yeah, I don't.

42:56.000 --> 42:57.000 No, no, no.

42:57.000 --> 42:58.000 Get grandma.

42:58.000 --> 42:59.000 Get grandma.

42:59.000 --> 43:01.000 So my daughter got it.

43:01.000 --> 43:02.000 Brogan probably has a bunch.

43:02.000 --> 43:05.000 My daughter went through an anime phase and she was watching.

43:05.000 --> 43:06.000 I don't know.

43:06.000 --> 43:11.000 It was some weird like they were becoming superheroes and they were going to high school.

43:11.000 --> 43:12.000 I don't remember what it was called.

43:12.000 --> 43:13.000 Academia.

43:13.000 --> 43:14.000 Yeah.

43:14.000 --> 43:15.000 Yeah.

43:15.000 --> 43:16.000 Yeah.

43:16.000 --> 43:17.000 My hero academia.

43:17.000 --> 43:18.000 That's what it was.

43:18.000 --> 43:20.000 I was trying to get into that with her.

43:20.000 --> 43:24.000 So she she was kind of losing interest.

43:24.000 --> 43:25.000 And I was like, all right.

43:25.000 --> 43:31.000 So I made the horrible fucking mistake going on Reddit to try to find suggestions for anime.

43:31.000 --> 43:34.000 One, Reddit.

43:34.000 --> 43:35.000 Yeah.

43:35.000 --> 43:36.000 My bad.

43:36.000 --> 43:38.000 But two, Jesus, fuck.

43:38.000 --> 43:42.000 The names of the shit doesn't ever match what's actually in the shit.

43:42.000 --> 43:47.000 So don't ever go to Reddit for suggestions is all I'm saying.

43:47.000 --> 43:48.000 Fuck.

43:48.000 --> 43:53.000 I know something called puppy love is not what you think it is.

43:53.000 --> 43:54.000 Yeah, dude.

43:54.000 --> 43:55.000 Like they do weird shit.

43:55.000 --> 43:57.000 Like there's one called food wars.

43:57.000 --> 43:58.000 I was like, all right, cool.

43:58.000 --> 43:59.000 It's about cooking.

43:59.000 --> 44:01.000 No, no, it's not actually about cooking.

44:01.000 --> 44:03.000 I mean, it is, but it's not.

44:03.000 --> 44:04.000 Right.

44:04.000 --> 44:06.000 But it's not.

44:06.000 --> 44:07.000 Yeah.

44:07.000 --> 44:08.000 Right on.

44:08.000 --> 44:09.000 Hey, it's got.

44:09.000 --> 44:12.000 Do you have a phone in?

44:12.000 --> 44:14.000 Did somebody call in?

44:14.000 --> 44:15.000 Oh, yeah.

44:15.000 --> 44:15.000 Yeah.

44:15.000 --> 44:16.000 Yeah.

44:16.000 --> 44:19.000 We do have a voicemail.

44:19.000 --> 44:20.000 Voicemail.

44:20.000 --> 44:21.000 What's up, guys?

44:21.000 --> 44:22.000 It's Eric calling in.

44:22.000 --> 44:23.000 I just did it myself.

44:23.000 --> 44:33.000 I just want to remind everyone, put on those spigot covers if you got outside faucets before you need it.

44:33.000 --> 44:35.000 It's going to get cold.

44:35.000 --> 44:36.000 Talk to you later.

44:36.000 --> 44:37.000 Bye.

44:37.000 --> 44:38.000 Great tip.

44:38.000 --> 44:39.000 Nice.

44:39.000 --> 44:39.620 Great tip.

44:40.600 --> 44:41.000 Nice.

44:41.540 --> 44:45.040 It's awesome that he called, but I thought spigot was a slur.

44:45.120 --> 44:45.900 I thought you couldn't say that.

44:46.160 --> 44:47.140 I couldn't say that.

44:47.840 --> 44:48.160 Well.

44:50.540 --> 44:52.740 So make sure you cover it when it's getting cold out.

44:53.080 --> 44:55.880 When it's covered, yeah, when it gets cold out.

44:56.340 --> 44:57.640 Now's the perfect time to do it.

44:57.740 --> 45:00.020 Our leaves are coming off mostly all the trees.

45:00.120 --> 45:01.980 It's real pretty and stuff, but he's right, man.

45:01.980 --> 45:04.500 We got some storms coming, I heard.

45:05.500 --> 45:07.080 So now's the time to do it.

45:07.140 --> 45:08.220 It takes like, what, two seconds?

45:08.300 --> 45:09.320 Even Jeff can do it.

45:10.860 --> 45:11.600 Thank you, Eric.

45:11.620 --> 45:15.940 Yeah, it's way better than waking up and having ice up the whole side of your place.

45:15.940 --> 45:20.960 Yeah, or crack that pipe so they have to get into your wall and fucking fix it.

45:21.080 --> 45:22.580 Yeah, that's a night and I ain't going to sleep in there.

45:22.720 --> 45:23.080 Terrible.

45:23.940 --> 45:24.300 Terrible.

45:25.240 --> 45:29.080 Yeah, dude, you don't want to go to downtown Seattle and find the crack pipes.

45:29.340 --> 45:30.380 That's just bad.

45:31.300 --> 45:34.380 Well, it's easy to go downtown Seattle and get a crack pipe.

45:34.520 --> 45:37.040 Yeah, it's just like you just step off the bus over the guy,

45:37.600 --> 45:38.540 take it out of his pocket.

45:39.440 --> 45:39.740 Yep.

45:40.160 --> 45:41.560 You can find him on the bus.

45:41.560 --> 45:41.740 It's a gift that keeps on giving.

45:42.740 --> 45:43.060 Right.

45:46.340 --> 45:46.700 Awesome.

45:46.820 --> 45:47.420 Thank you, Eric.

45:47.500 --> 45:50.420 We just turned it into a crack PSA.

45:50.460 --> 45:50.700 Sorry.

45:51.120 --> 45:51.220 Sorry.

45:53.780 --> 45:54.920 Eric is the best.

45:55.020 --> 45:55.920 I have to say that.

45:56.200 --> 45:56.560 Yeah.

45:56.560 --> 45:57.340 Eric is really cool.

45:57.340 --> 45:57.880 Thank you for the tip.

45:57.880 --> 45:58.700 You're the best, Eric.

45:59.180 --> 46:00.140 I was just talking about soccer.

46:00.260 --> 46:02.300 I said, and the stars are starting up.

46:02.320 --> 46:02.720 He says.

46:04.480 --> 46:04.840 Yes.

46:04.960 --> 46:05.080 Yeah.

46:05.180 --> 46:09.880 At the, um, the soccer center into in Puyallup.

46:10.080 --> 46:14.660 Well, the, the, you can watch the stars at, uh, what one is it?

46:14.660 --> 46:15.360 It's up north.

46:15.900 --> 46:16.180 Fuck.

46:16.220 --> 46:16.880 I wish he was here.

46:16.940 --> 46:17.780 He's our sports guy.

46:18.780 --> 46:23.520 Um, but yesterday he posted, um, the, their, their secondary team is playing at the soccer

46:23.520 --> 46:25.260 center in, um, in Tacoma.

46:25.780 --> 46:31.520 Um, and that's a blast if, if you, if, if you're in Tacoma and you've never been, um, it's

46:31.520 --> 46:32.520 super fun to watch there.

46:32.720 --> 46:34.460 So we need to do it about going today.

46:34.560 --> 46:34.980 Yeah.

46:35.060 --> 46:37.280 We almost, we almost did it, man.

46:37.280 --> 46:41.680 Like after we were rolling out, but the game's not for another 20 minutes from right now.

46:41.680 --> 46:43.360 So I'm just probably not going to go.

46:45.500 --> 46:45.860 Boo.

46:46.420 --> 46:46.740 I know.

46:46.860 --> 46:48.900 You're talking about the Tacoma star soccer team.

46:49.320 --> 46:49.600 Yeah.

46:49.700 --> 46:49.920 Yeah.

46:49.920 --> 46:50.040 Yeah.

46:50.640 --> 46:56.600 In Tacoma, um, is their secondary, I believe.

46:56.720 --> 46:58.060 I forget the name of it.

46:58.240 --> 47:03.240 Um, the, the Tacoma stars actually play a little bit up north.

47:03.280 --> 47:06.680 Um, the same place the, um, the hockey team does.

47:06.980 --> 47:08.280 Can't, they can't show where center.

47:08.420 --> 47:08.680 Yeah.

47:08.760 --> 47:09.300 There you go.

47:09.400 --> 47:09.920 Thank you.

47:09.960 --> 47:10.240 Cino.

47:10.320 --> 47:11.120 Did you Google that?

47:11.500 --> 47:16.700 No, but I kind of remembered, uh, I remember Eric talking about it from last year.

47:16.700 --> 47:17.700 So yeah.

47:17.800 --> 47:18.600 Show where center.

47:18.720 --> 47:18.960 Yeah.

47:19.360 --> 47:19.720 Show where.

47:19.820 --> 47:19.980 Yeah.

47:19.980 --> 47:21.940 These must be preseason games.

47:21.940 --> 47:24.820 Cause they don't start till December 13th.

47:25.040 --> 47:25.480 Ooh.

47:25.780 --> 47:26.280 Which ones?

47:27.500 --> 47:29.100 The Tacoma stars.

47:29.300 --> 47:30.620 I'm looking at their schedule right now.

47:31.080 --> 47:31.380 Yeah.

47:31.720 --> 47:38.100 See, I think the, um, he, I think the tickets are on sale sale for those, but I think, um,

47:38.760 --> 47:43.840 the secondary team, he posted a link in the discord under, um, under sports, I think.

47:44.420 --> 47:46.000 Oh, I got to scroll up a little bit.

47:48.740 --> 47:49.180 Ooh.

47:49.320 --> 47:49.420 Yeah.

47:49.420 --> 47:50.800 Can we support the whole team?

47:51.140 --> 47:51.380 Okay.

47:52.380 --> 47:53.980 Oh, well, that's the stars.

47:54.240 --> 47:55.320 I'm going to reserves.

47:55.600 --> 47:56.060 There you go.

47:56.120 --> 47:57.060 The stars reserves.

47:59.480 --> 48:01.040 Hey, can I actually play?

48:01.280 --> 48:01.920 Oh, go ahead, Jeff.

48:02.180 --> 48:02.740 No, go ahead.

48:02.800 --> 48:03.240 Go finish.

48:03.540 --> 48:03.840 I'm sorry.

48:04.040 --> 48:05.160 I was going to say the stars.

48:06.280 --> 48:10.140 I know it sounds it's, it's hard, or it's, I don't know if it makes sense, but the stars

48:10.140 --> 48:15.800 reserves play at the, at the soccer place in Tacoma.

48:16.000 --> 48:20.740 But the Tacoma stars play at the show where center in Kent, just cause it's bigger.

48:20.740 --> 48:21.580 I think.

48:22.100 --> 48:25.400 Reserves in Tacoma and the other stars in Kent.

48:25.780 --> 48:26.300 Yeah.

48:26.540 --> 48:28.360 See, see, see, we got it.

48:28.360 --> 48:29.220 Good job, man.

48:29.240 --> 48:29.960 That is awesome.

48:30.080 --> 48:30.760 Great work.

48:31.360 --> 48:33.760 And, and again, Eric knows all about that.

48:33.760 --> 48:38.880 So we, we need to hear more from Eric and how the, uh, the stars are doing.

48:39.500 --> 48:40.960 Or jump on our discord.

48:41.200 --> 48:44.360 He's very, he posts things all the time on there.

48:44.820 --> 48:47.320 Eric is very active on our discord, which I appreciate.

48:47.760 --> 48:48.520 Thank you, Eric.

48:48.880 --> 48:48.900 Yes.

48:48.900 --> 48:49.440 Thank you, Eric.

48:50.120 --> 48:50.700 Thank you.

48:50.760 --> 48:50.960 Yeah.

48:50.980 --> 48:52.280 So, uh, check out our discord.

48:52.400 --> 48:53.380 It's a grit city podcast.

48:54.100 --> 48:56.120 Just type in grit city podcast on discord.

48:56.260 --> 48:58.940 If you, we like you like us.

48:59.640 --> 49:04.060 Ceno and I posted on there, um, when we were hanging out at the, uh, at Top Gun.

49:04.980 --> 49:06.000 And I saw that.

49:06.220 --> 49:07.680 Nobody come to hang out with us.

49:07.760 --> 49:09.300 It was just us on the bartenders.

49:09.500 --> 49:10.880 They knew we were coming though.

49:10.980 --> 49:12.660 They're like, Hey, we heard you guys were coming.

49:13.340 --> 49:14.300 Thank you.

49:14.960 --> 49:16.900 Maybe you should be quieter when you do that.

49:17.540 --> 49:18.220 I know, right?

49:18.800 --> 49:20.940 Hey, I got a, I got a thing on my mind.

49:21.220 --> 49:28.360 So, uh, one, this is about a text that was posted in the personal or the, the GCP text,

49:28.500 --> 49:35.360 you know, that four of us are in or so, uh, the hosts are in, uh, and it was about the

49:35.360 --> 49:42.360 true story about the matrix or how it started about instead of everybody being used as a

49:42.360 --> 49:45.740 battery, that they were used as a data center.

49:46.100 --> 49:52.820 And then they said that was such a, uh, uh, such a non concept of people that they had to

49:52.820 --> 49:53.500 say, Oh, okay.

49:53.500 --> 49:56.360 You're going to be used as a battery to make the story work.

49:56.860 --> 49:57.360 Um, yeah.

49:57.360 --> 49:59.560 Memory wasn't an issue.

50:00.100 --> 50:00.360 Yeah.

50:00.500 --> 50:00.800 It was.

50:01.040 --> 50:01.200 Yeah.

50:02.200 --> 50:05.480 They, they, so that they framed it that way.

50:05.480 --> 50:12.080 But what they really meant was, uh, um, Keanu Reeves already did Johnny mnemonic and

50:12.080 --> 50:17.220 they didn't want to make the matrix look like a, like a rehash of the same movie.

50:18.720 --> 50:23.840 Uh, but that, and so I was thinking, and I did a little cross-reference, you guys know

50:23.840 --> 50:24.440 Black Mirror.

50:25.000 --> 50:26.320 You ever watch your, watch that?

50:26.360 --> 50:27.880 My wife watched the hell out of that.

50:28.280 --> 50:28.620 It's weird.

50:28.720 --> 50:33.600 So, so they had that one where it was like a virtual eighties type of thing.

50:33.600 --> 50:39.380 And basically it was people that are in a hospice and people that are in mobile for whatever

50:39.380 --> 50:44.080 reason, or that they're able to live these lives in this virtual reality.

50:44.600 --> 50:51.080 So what would people be able, so like if the robots came, AI came and said, we're going

50:51.080 --> 50:55.880 to turn you into a, uh, just a storage facility and copper pot or, uh, I'm sorry, a copper

50:55.880 --> 50:57.360 top, you know, a battery.

50:58.040 --> 50:59.920 Um, that sounds awful.

50:59.920 --> 51:00.240 Right.

51:00.380 --> 51:01.940 But what if they said, Hey, you know what?

51:01.940 --> 51:02.540 You're getting old.

51:02.580 --> 51:04.380 Your body's going to deteriorate.

51:04.540 --> 51:06.440 So what did we hook you up to this thing?

51:06.680 --> 51:13.820 And for us using, you know, 80% of your brain, you get to use the 20% to live in this virtual

51:13.820 --> 51:14.840 reality world.

51:15.020 --> 51:20.680 You know, how many people would say in the words of cipher ignorance is bliss.

51:21.200 --> 51:21.600 Yeah.

51:21.680 --> 51:23.480 I mean, that is the same thing.

51:23.660 --> 51:25.200 I mean, the matrix did the same thing.

51:25.200 --> 51:27.860 It's just like, what's your body being used for on the outside?

51:28.460 --> 51:31.060 One, you know, electricity versus just storage.

51:31.060 --> 51:31.440 Right.

51:31.760 --> 51:32.040 Right.

51:32.560 --> 51:36.180 And they said that in the, I think the same problem in the matrix, they were like, Oh,

51:36.220 --> 51:40.800 we had, uh, you know, I think if you get into lore there, like there was a bunch of them,

51:40.880 --> 51:45.360 but I think in the movie, the guy, he says there was one before, but it was perfect.

51:45.360 --> 51:45.680 Right.

51:45.700 --> 51:47.540 And so people were like rejected it.

51:47.720 --> 51:51.400 So that means that your life would like some people's lives are going to be fucked up.

51:52.200 --> 51:52.560 Right.

51:53.140 --> 51:53.460 Right.

51:53.620 --> 51:55.100 So, I mean, it's the same.

51:55.380 --> 51:57.520 It's just like shitty life, no matter what.

51:57.660 --> 51:57.840 Right.

51:59.020 --> 52:00.420 But would you sign up for it better?

52:00.640 --> 52:04.140 If they, if that sheet came around today, Hey, we're working on this program.

52:04.380 --> 52:07.960 Uh, because I, I read, also I read, it's not a new concept because I read it.

52:08.020 --> 52:12.080 I was been, I came and talked, I was like on a Ray Bradbury kick.

52:12.340 --> 52:12.780 Yeah.

52:12.780 --> 52:12.780 Yeah.

52:12.780 --> 52:12.780 Yeah.

52:12.780 --> 52:12.780 Yeah.

52:12.780 --> 52:12.780 Yeah.

52:12.780 --> 52:12.780 Yeah.

52:12.780 --> 52:12.780 Yeah.

52:12.780 --> 52:12.780 Yeah.

52:42.340 --> 52:43.160 And I was like, even the spirit.

52:43.160 --> 52:47.340 So if you die, they take you and they put your consciousness in another.

52:48.060 --> 52:49.100 Oh, that's terrible.

52:49.380 --> 52:49.820 Yeah.

52:49.820 --> 52:54.860 But I'll find, I'll find the name of it, but yeah, no.

52:54.980 --> 52:55.300 Yeah.

52:55.400 --> 52:58.420 And so I would just start thinking, cause I'm getting old.

52:58.420 --> 53:00.540 And like I said, I've had, I have to play now.

53:00.540 --> 53:06.120 So it's like, man, would I be willing to be, be like, and I don't think it's like selling

53:06.120 --> 53:06.760 your soul.

53:06.960 --> 53:08.900 Cause again, you're not young anymore.

53:08.900 --> 53:12.720 You're not going to be, but how much would I want to play virtual pinball?

53:12.960 --> 53:14.640 You know how bad, cause basically that's what it is.

53:14.640 --> 53:17.620 It's like being strapped into a, a VR.

53:17.620 --> 53:18.860 Into a virtual world.

53:18.940 --> 53:19.540 That'd be crazy.

53:20.140 --> 53:21.220 Well, you wouldn't know though.

53:21.260 --> 53:21.540 Right.

53:21.720 --> 53:22.300 It's supposed to be.

53:22.300 --> 53:22.700 Well, I don't know.

53:22.700 --> 53:25.400 So you could add that to, to your thing, I guess.

53:25.480 --> 53:26.700 I guess that would be part of the contract.

53:26.700 --> 53:26.960 I can't know.

53:27.100 --> 53:28.640 If I know, then fuck that.

53:28.740 --> 53:29.020 I'm out.

53:29.740 --> 53:30.040 Yep.

53:30.140 --> 53:32.620 As soon as I figure it out and wake up like Neo, I'm fucked.

53:33.240 --> 53:34.560 Well, isn't that the whole thing though?

53:34.640 --> 53:36.460 Like where they're like, oh, deja vu.

53:36.600 --> 53:37.100 It's a thing.

53:37.160 --> 53:42.060 So there's always a little, um, things that show you that it's like, it's not real.

53:42.060 --> 53:42.500 Right.

53:42.960 --> 53:43.240 Gotcha.

53:43.780 --> 53:45.640 Isn't that the whole, I mean, that's the whole idea.

53:45.700 --> 53:47.360 The matrix is, that's the whole matrix.

53:47.460 --> 53:47.900 I love it.

53:47.980 --> 53:48.860 I mean, I love it.

53:48.900 --> 53:50.160 It's the whole thing though.

53:50.160 --> 53:53.340 But, but, but what, what, what, when the kicks you out?

53:53.360 --> 53:55.260 Cause you realize you're in the matrix.

53:55.420 --> 53:59.500 It kicks you out for 10 minutes and it says, uh, uh, hello, Mr. Graham.

53:59.640 --> 54:00.880 I'm so-and-so here.

54:00.880 --> 54:01.760 Please sign this.

54:01.820 --> 54:04.440 You're, you know, you're in a virtual reality.

54:04.540 --> 54:06.100 You realize you're in virtual reality.

54:06.200 --> 54:06.700 You're okay.

54:06.800 --> 54:07.460 Everything's fine.

54:07.540 --> 54:08.180 Everything's legal.

54:08.180 --> 54:08.700 All right.

54:09.120 --> 54:10.900 Oh, you'd lose your fucking mind, dude.

54:10.960 --> 54:12.060 You ever have one of those dreams?

54:12.060 --> 54:15.820 They just kick you to the lobby and then let you go into the next game.

54:16.280 --> 54:16.560 Maybe.

54:16.720 --> 54:17.020 Right.

54:17.560 --> 54:19.580 You know, go to eighties to the nineties.

54:19.660 --> 54:20.200 I don't know.

54:20.420 --> 54:26.560 I, I, I, and they make that, I had never watched that show they had on CBS called Upload.

54:26.620 --> 54:29.500 And it's kind of the same thing where they put people's consciousness.

54:30.160 --> 54:31.380 Oh, I watched that show.

54:31.560 --> 54:31.860 Okay.

54:31.960 --> 54:37.220 I was, that one was weird because then they started like charging them for data storage.

54:37.220 --> 54:40.300 And I was like, yeah, that a hundred percent is how that would fucking end up too.

54:40.440 --> 54:40.560 Yeah.

54:40.560 --> 54:41.000 That would be.

54:41.100 --> 54:41.280 Yeah.

54:41.280 --> 54:41.640 Exactly.

54:42.100 --> 54:46.140 We're only, you, we're only going to keep 20 years of your memories and then we're the rest

54:46.140 --> 54:46.820 you can't afford.

54:46.820 --> 54:49.880 So, but if we're the storage itself though.

54:50.080 --> 54:50.420 Yeah.

54:50.840 --> 54:52.060 No, it was usage.

54:52.060 --> 54:52.380 Right.

54:52.880 --> 54:55.440 So it was like, oh, you, you didn't pay for premium.

54:55.440 --> 54:58.260 So you only get two gigs of usage this month.

54:58.260 --> 55:03.040 Then if you use it, you're fucking frozen or you're, you're running on dial up speeds for

55:03.040 --> 55:04.020 the rest of the month.

55:06.000 --> 55:07.200 Uh, it was that move.

55:07.280 --> 55:08.360 That show was weird.

55:09.120 --> 55:09.880 I haven't seen that.

55:10.000 --> 55:10.860 But it could happen.

55:11.360 --> 55:12.000 You know?

55:12.540 --> 55:12.900 Oh yeah.

55:12.920 --> 55:13.980 You should check that show out.

55:14.000 --> 55:15.120 It started out really good.

55:16.180 --> 55:16.580 Dude.

55:16.620 --> 55:18.760 I, I have a horror scenario for everybody.

55:18.760 --> 55:19.780 Are you guys ready for this?

55:19.840 --> 55:21.300 It's, it's along the same lines, right?

55:21.720 --> 55:25.400 We talked about, um, the smart dust, right?

55:26.440 --> 55:26.740 Yeah.

55:27.440 --> 55:27.840 Yes.

55:27.920 --> 55:30.220 You guys remember Jeff, where you here when you talked about smart dust?

55:30.220 --> 55:31.100 Well, yeah, I've heard.

55:31.220 --> 55:31.520 I've heard it.

55:31.560 --> 55:31.700 Yeah.

55:31.980 --> 55:32.340 Yeah.

55:32.400 --> 55:33.600 The really small dust.

55:33.760 --> 55:34.420 The nanobots.

55:34.940 --> 55:35.100 Yeah.

55:35.540 --> 55:35.940 Nanobots.

55:35.940 --> 55:37.500 And you might be able to use for medical stuff.

55:37.560 --> 55:38.900 So we have AI now, right?

55:39.580 --> 55:49.820 What if you get the nanobots in you and AI takes over and uses you as a way to be conscious,

55:50.180 --> 55:50.400 right?

55:51.480 --> 55:55.520 Instead of like the matrix, they just use your body to be like a meat puppet.

55:55.860 --> 55:57.300 They keep you alive.

55:57.580 --> 56:00.120 You grow all your organs, keep you alive forever.

56:00.120 --> 56:00.260 Fucking meat puppet.

56:02.260 --> 56:07.200 Dude, if I, if I knew they were just going to keep me alive, I'd become a fucking awesome.

56:07.200 --> 56:08.460 But you, you have no control.

56:08.860 --> 56:10.000 They, they control everything.

56:10.340 --> 56:10.700 They, yeah.

56:10.760 --> 56:11.680 Well, then they won.

56:11.760 --> 56:13.240 Then you have nothing to worry about.

56:13.380 --> 56:13.600 Right.

56:13.640 --> 56:14.140 You're fucked.

56:14.280 --> 56:14.720 Either way.

56:14.760 --> 56:14.880 Yeah.

56:14.880 --> 56:15.680 That would kind of suck.

56:15.820 --> 56:22.940 Um, but I think just in general, I think just in general, flesh itself is just not practical

56:22.940 --> 56:25.100 to, to an AI.

56:25.760 --> 56:26.160 Why?

56:26.880 --> 56:28.920 Just because it's too much fucking work.

56:29.000 --> 56:33.520 You got to feed it and grow it and keep it from poking on metal things.

56:34.020 --> 56:36.880 I think, I think you'd be surprised, Jeff.

56:36.980 --> 56:38.380 The brain is very, very.

56:38.680 --> 56:40.220 Well, the brain, that's the only part.

56:40.300 --> 56:40.480 Okay.

56:40.480 --> 56:40.840 I'm sorry.

56:41.000 --> 56:42.280 So the brain, brain is flesh.

56:42.280 --> 56:42.600 Right.

56:42.920 --> 56:44.540 But what, what works, but that, that's it.

56:44.620 --> 56:45.220 Then the consciousness.

56:45.220 --> 56:47.820 I mean, that is the matrix things we're talking about.

56:47.940 --> 56:49.340 We're like, oh, they're keeping you alive.

56:49.340 --> 56:51.000 Bones even better than the flesh.

56:51.700 --> 56:51.780 Yeah.

56:51.880 --> 56:53.400 But what are they going to walk around in?

56:53.960 --> 56:54.240 Robot bodies?

56:54.240 --> 56:54.740 Well, they're going to.

56:55.020 --> 56:55.900 That's not cool.

56:56.300 --> 56:56.960 They're not alive.

56:57.180 --> 56:58.080 They have robot bodies.

56:58.440 --> 56:59.880 They got to get in people bodies.

57:00.280 --> 57:00.900 I gotcha.

57:01.080 --> 57:01.940 I got where you're going.

57:02.060 --> 57:02.860 You're going more, more.

57:02.920 --> 57:06.800 It's kind of, it's kind of like a, uh, uh, you got to have it type of thing.

57:07.020 --> 57:07.960 I don't know, man.

57:07.960 --> 57:09.960 I heard a, I heard a, another podcast.

57:10.480 --> 57:11.980 It's talking about a smart dust.

57:12.060 --> 57:12.980 They did a whole thing on it.

57:13.240 --> 57:17.620 And, um, and, uh, that was kind of one of the topics they brought up and that one really

57:17.620 --> 57:19.120 fucking stuck me, man.

57:19.220 --> 57:20.320 I was like, holy shit.

57:20.360 --> 57:23.420 What if we're just meat puppets for AI and we don't even know it?

57:23.420 --> 57:23.820 Right.

57:24.000 --> 57:25.860 No, you, you, you wouldn't, you wouldn't know.

57:26.120 --> 57:27.220 That's a band, isn't it?

57:27.620 --> 57:28.380 The meat puppets.

57:28.860 --> 57:29.300 It is.

57:29.380 --> 57:29.640 It is.

57:29.700 --> 57:30.400 It's a very good band.

57:31.220 --> 57:37.920 Oh, um, yeah, I, I still don't, I'm still going to say, yeah, flesh would be a, uh,

57:40.480 --> 57:46.600 a con rather than a pro for any type of, uh, uh, wait, what would they call that?

57:46.700 --> 57:52.320 Uh, uh, not, oh man, silicon, silicon type life.

57:52.680 --> 57:53.120 Yeah.

57:53.480 --> 57:54.420 Or maybe, maybe.

57:56.740 --> 58:00.080 Any type of metal life or any type of thing, like, except for the brain.

58:00.260 --> 58:00.620 You're right.

58:00.700 --> 58:02.960 The brain is the, is the magic.

58:03.700 --> 58:04.720 It is the magic.

58:05.100 --> 58:05.840 But, but is it though?

58:05.840 --> 58:07.440 Cause they show them like mushrooms.

58:07.600 --> 58:09.120 So they might skip us all together.

58:09.120 --> 58:11.800 We might already been replaced with just fucking mushrooms.

58:12.280 --> 58:15.660 You know how fungus are playing games now and learning.

58:15.780 --> 58:20.280 So they, we, we might as well, we might just fungied ourself out of a job.

58:21.680 --> 58:24.400 You, uh, a little existence.

58:24.680 --> 58:24.760 Right.

58:25.260 --> 58:29.900 Um, there's a great YouTube channel where a guy hooks mushrooms up to, um, little, uh,

58:29.900 --> 58:31.120 electronic music things.

58:31.120 --> 58:35.940 And you can hear them play, play like music as he cuts them and like does.

58:36.860 --> 58:37.880 As he cuts them.

58:37.940 --> 58:38.580 Jesus Christ.

58:38.740 --> 58:39.380 They're screaming.

58:39.480 --> 58:40.260 It's pretty horrible.

58:40.600 --> 58:40.960 They're screaming.

58:41.600 --> 58:46.920 But no, it's actually, um, like that's like, they want you to eat the fruit part, right?

58:46.920 --> 58:48.500 Like the rest of the mushrooms underneath.

58:48.500 --> 58:52.700 So that's kind of what they're supposed to do, but it, it does send pulses through them

58:52.700 --> 58:53.900 and it changes the music.

58:54.020 --> 58:54.600 It's kind of cool.

58:54.680 --> 58:57.280 Anyway, I'll shut up.

58:57.600 --> 58:58.900 No, that's awesome.

58:58.900 --> 59:00.520 Sounds terrible, but I kind of want to see it.

59:00.620 --> 59:01.200 I got wild.

59:01.200 --> 59:01.820 You know, you do.

59:02.580 --> 59:03.040 I do.

59:03.140 --> 59:08.300 Just look up mushroom hook to a MIDI or mushroom hook to synthesizer or something like that.

59:08.340 --> 59:09.780 You'll, you'll find all kinds of crazy shit.

59:11.840 --> 59:12.760 I think you're welcome.

59:13.020 --> 59:13.180 Yeah.

59:13.620 --> 59:13.980 Thank you.

59:17.840 --> 59:21.620 Do you see the, Oh, do you guys see the new, uh, body cam?

59:22.140 --> 59:23.920 I showed you guys body cam, right?

59:23.920 --> 59:24.940 That video game.

59:25.220 --> 59:25.620 Yeah.

59:25.660 --> 59:28.240 Have you seen the, uh, the zombie update?

59:28.800 --> 59:29.160 No.

59:29.760 --> 59:30.800 Oh, holy shit.

59:31.000 --> 59:32.080 Watch this, dude.

59:32.200 --> 59:32.740 Hold on.

59:34.400 --> 59:35.880 They did a zombie update.

59:36.040 --> 59:36.700 Watch this shit.

59:37.160 --> 59:38.120 I'm going to play mine too.

59:38.220 --> 59:43.360 So I'm not going to be able to hear anybody talking, but how scary is that?

59:46.040 --> 59:46.440 Yeah.

59:46.440 --> 59:47.700 That looks crazy.

59:47.940 --> 59:48.180 Yeah.

59:49.280 --> 59:51.000 Could you imagine playing that in VR?

59:52.060 --> 59:53.160 Oh, fuck dude.

59:53.360 --> 59:56.320 You know, again, this is a beta, right?

59:56.420 --> 59:59.520 This is so when they finally release, it's going to be nuts.

01:00:03.420 --> 01:00:06.180 That's creepy as fuck where they're just throwing themselves off.

01:00:08.560 --> 01:00:17.360 Oh, did you, did you see the thing where the fucking AI built a fully functional fucking video game in an hour?

01:00:18.400 --> 01:00:19.300 Yeah, dude.

01:00:20.120 --> 01:00:22.240 Video games are going to be a.

01:00:23.360 --> 01:00:26.220 Video games are going to be a thing.

01:00:26.340 --> 01:00:31.720 Video game, uh, devs and testers and everything are being laid off all over left and right.

01:00:32.060 --> 01:00:32.400 Oh, yeah.

01:00:33.680 --> 01:00:35.060 How, how cool is that game?

01:00:35.760 --> 01:00:36.680 That looks really cool.

01:00:36.900 --> 01:00:38.260 That's fucking gnarly, dude.

01:00:38.660 --> 01:00:41.420 See, I don't, I don't like, so I have.

01:00:41.500 --> 01:00:42.480 Are you not a zombie guy?

01:00:43.120 --> 01:00:44.300 No, no, I don't care about zombies.

01:00:44.300 --> 01:00:44.560 I wouldn't be able to sleep.

01:00:44.560 --> 01:00:46.140 But I have lighting issues, right?

01:00:46.300 --> 01:00:51.960 So, like when I play games, I turn the gamma up all the fucking way because I don't like dark shit.

01:00:51.960 --> 01:00:53.980 I want to be able to see every little fucking thing.

01:00:54.820 --> 01:01:01.400 And, uh, being in the dark and just getting the fucking flash from the muzzle would, no, not irritate the shit out of me.

01:01:01.660 --> 01:01:01.880 Yeah.

01:01:02.320 --> 01:01:02.560 Yeah.

01:01:02.660 --> 01:01:05.060 With a little, you'll seize your, seize out.

01:01:05.220 --> 01:01:06.760 You'll be like, oh, fuck, dude.

01:01:07.540 --> 01:01:08.160 Tip over.

01:01:08.320 --> 01:01:10.100 This game is so real, dude.

01:01:10.240 --> 01:01:11.580 I, I can't imagine.

01:01:11.940 --> 01:01:12.900 Like, it's really fucking.

01:01:12.900 --> 01:01:14.040 It's gotta give you fucking.

01:01:16.680 --> 01:01:17.680 It blows me away.

01:01:17.800 --> 01:01:18.020 Sorry.

01:01:18.100 --> 01:01:18.540 I've been watching.

01:01:18.600 --> 01:01:19.680 I'm still watching it.

01:01:20.240 --> 01:01:22.360 Those fucking zombies are nuts, dude.

01:01:23.180 --> 01:01:26.020 The fucking graphics details are ridiculous.

01:01:26.300 --> 01:01:27.040 It's crazy.

01:01:28.900 --> 01:01:29.300 Yeah.

01:01:29.340 --> 01:01:44.900 If you're ever bored, like, and you want to, uh, like see, I don't know, uh, they do these dev things where they go through exactly what they've, um, uh, like the way they, like the way the, the character falls.

01:01:44.900 --> 01:01:47.060 They, they, they redid it all of that.

01:01:47.180 --> 01:01:51.400 Like they, they, they redid it from, um, from what the engine had.

01:01:51.480 --> 01:01:52.020 You know what I mean?

01:01:53.300 --> 01:01:53.720 I don't know.

01:01:54.640 --> 01:01:55.820 I can hear somebody.

01:01:57.100 --> 01:01:57.500 Mine.

01:01:57.660 --> 01:01:57.900 Sorry.

01:01:59.180 --> 01:01:59.820 My bad.

01:01:59.840 --> 01:02:00.360 No, you're fine.

01:02:00.500 --> 01:02:00.920 You're fine.

01:02:00.980 --> 01:02:01.960 That loud as fuck.

01:02:02.400 --> 01:02:03.780 I'm still, we're still recording.

01:02:03.920 --> 01:02:07.480 I haven't shut us off yet, but, um, check this out too.

01:02:07.960 --> 01:02:09.220 Who have you been listening to?

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